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There have been several cases where legal American Citizens have been put into deportation proceedings or formally deported. All it takes is for a border agent

There have been several cases where legal American Citizens have been put into deportation proceedings or formally deported. All it takes is for a border agent to choose not to believe the documents you’re handing over. There is no rule at the federal level that entitles noncitizens to trials. So a border agent declaring you a noncitizen without court oversight strips you of your constitutional rights. One US citizen was detained by ICE for 3 years, other reports exist of 1-year detentions. It all really depends on how poor you are and how backed up (by design) the system is. Anyway, a citizen being turned away, shipped back, or put into deportation at the airport isn’t a far reach from any of this.

dudul 8y ago
Do you have a link to any of these stories? I have heard of US citizens being detained and bullied at the border, but they were always eventually admitted into the country after a few hours of "purgatory". Where would you even try to deport a US citizen? "Here, Spain, we don't think this guy is a US citizen, his passport doesn't look legit enough, can you take him?"
- ilikehurdles 8y ago
  The 3-year detention story: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/08/01/540903038/u-s-citizen-held-by-immigration-for-3-years-denied-compensation-by-appeals-court https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/08/01/540903038... An incomplete wikipedia list with a number of citizens that were wrongfully deported from the U.S.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_Americans_from_the_United_States#Americans_physically_removed_from_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_Americans_from_... U.S. citizens having deportation detainers placed on them is suprisingly common: https://www.cato.org/publications/immigration-research-policy-brief/us-citizens-targeted-ice-us-citizens-targeted https://www.cato.org/publications/immigration-research-polic... This guy was held for weeks: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/12/04/born-philadelphia-us-citizen-says-he-was-held-deportation-jamaica-ices-request/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.3af99e7b3d32 https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/12/04/born-philad... U.S. citizen detained without charge for a year and then freed: https://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security/detention/us-citizen-detained-without-charge-trump-administration-year https://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security/detention/us-cit... There are dozens of stories like these. I've listed a few, but to go further I'd recommend doing a web search.
  - dudul 8y ago
    Thanks for sharing. I guess the difference is that none of these stories involves crossing the border (or maybe I missed some details, that was a lot to read :). Still positively frightening that the system could so badly fail.

dudul 8y ago

Do you have a link to any of these stories? I have heard of US citizens being detained and bullied at the border, but they were always eventually admitted into the country after a few hours of "purgatory". Where would you even try to deport a US citizen? "Here, Spain, we don't think this guy is a US citizen, his passport doesn't look legit enough, can you take him?"

ilikehurdles 8y ago
The 3-year detention story: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/08/01/540903038/u-s-citizen-held-by-immigration-for-3-years-denied-compensation-by-appeals-court https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/08/01/540903038... An incomplete wikipedia list with a number of citizens that were wrongfully deported from the U.S.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_Americans_from_the_United_States#Americans_physically_removed_from_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_Americans_from_... U.S. citizens having deportation detainers placed on them is suprisingly common: https://www.cato.org/publications/immigration-research-policy-brief/us-citizens-targeted-ice-us-citizens-targeted https://www.cato.org/publications/immigration-research-polic... This guy was held for weeks: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/12/04/born-philadelphia-us-citizen-says-he-was-held-deportation-jamaica-ices-request/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.3af99e7b3d32 https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/12/04/born-philad... U.S. citizen detained without charge for a year and then freed: https://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security/detention/us-citizen-detained-without-charge-trump-administration-year https://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security/detention/us-cit... There are dozens of stories like these. I've listed a few, but to go further I'd recommend doing a web search.
- dudul 8y ago
  Thanks for sharing. I guess the difference is that none of these stories involves crossing the border (or maybe I missed some details, that was a lot to read :). Still positively frightening that the system could so badly fail.