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> Families are separated when citizens commit crime You're equivocating civil and criminal law. Illegal (re)-entry is a civil offense, as it's not directed aga
by spamizbad 8y ago
> Families are separated when citizens commit crime
You're equivocating civil and criminal law. Illegal (re)-entry is a civil offense, as it's not directed against a person.
Anyway, the controversy is specifically about the recently implemented Family Separation Policy[1] and the fact that the government claims it does not have the desire or ability to reunite families[2]. This is very new and what most people are outraged about.
Especially since its being used as a political cudgel, as illegal immigration has been declining precipitously for well over a decade[3] with existing measures in place.
The whole debate does have a tinge of irony: illegal European immigrants flooded across the Canadian border, to avoid quotas, after immigration reform passed in the early 20th century; their ancestors are now complaining about the same acts.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_administration_family_separation_policy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_administration_family_se...
[2] https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/29/politics/family-separations-reunification-never-plan-court/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/29/politics/family-separations-r...
[3] https://www.pewhispanic.org/2018/11/27/u-s-unauthorized-immigrant-total-dips-to-lowest-level-in-a-decade/ https://www.pewhispanic.org/2018/11/27/u-s-unauthorized-immi...
- manigandham 8y agoThat has no impact on the matter. American citizens who are arrested (regardless of civil or criminal cases) are detained. This administration is enforcing laws that have already been there. They also reprioritized families with children. Perhaps these pieces should explore just how many of these children are actually related to the group of adults they enter with. Detainment procedures are not as simple as you think. How is software that improves case processing time not a good thing in this situation? How can you know how many illegal immigrants are here? If you know where they are then they would be detained. They are not taking census. These are basically guesses, as stated right in that article.
- pandaman 8y agoIt is not a civil offense. It has civil penalties in addition to criminal ones. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325