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Stalin is 10M deads in the lead.

• ben_w 7y ago
  I thought most of those deaths were indirectly, resulting from agricultural and economic policies and forced relocations and only a relatively (10%) small number of executions? If you include economic causes, you might need to include the excess mortality of systematically impoverished communities in western nations — and I don’t just mean “PoC in the USA”, as I can point to a UK study claiming the government’s austerity policies since 2010 have caused 120,000 excess deaths: https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/health-and-social-care-spending-cuts-linked-to-120000-excess-deaths-in-england/ https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/health-and-social-care-... Also, if those deaths were related to economic policies, you probably have to weigh them by population size. Obviously that’s still a million executions more than most; I am not defending him, this is just about making it an apples-to-apples comparison.
  • estsauver 7y ago
    There's some evidence it was not accidental: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor#Genocide_question https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor#Genocide_question
  • _Codemonkeyism 7y ago
    It looks like something of ~7M from the famines, ~2M from Gulags, ~1M from executions, uncertain number from torture. Numbers from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excess_mortality_in_the_Soviet_Union_under_Joseph_Stalin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excess_mortality_in_the_Soviet... I'd say if famines are the cheapest way, many dictators with a genocide mind set would do that if possible.