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The same thing happened with live journal. Executives massively over-react to the terror of possibly hosting child pornography, and therefore decided all pornog

The same thing happened with live journal. Executives massively over-react to the terror of possibly hosting child pornography, and therefore decided all pornography - or even anything mildly erotic - had to be ejected. And, like what happened with live journal, the site never recovered. As a sex positive liberal, I admit a certain level of schadenfreude at seeing tumblr's decision bite them in the butt. Using child porn as a pretext to justify a puritanical purge of all erotic content is absolutely obnoxious IMO.

Simple_Guy 7y ago
>As a sex positive liberal What do you consider as the should-be age of consent?
- agentdrtran 7y ago
  he said liberal, not libertarian
  - Stratoscope 7y ago
    I think the word you were looking for was "libertine". Definitely not the same thing as "libertarian".
    - s4vi0r 7y ago
      Libertarians (the right wing kind, at least) pretty commonly get made fun of/characterized as pedophiles among other things so they probably did mean libertarian lol
      - lovich 7y ago
        This comment has been downvoted but the phrase, "What if the child consents?" Is actually bandied about frequently on political subreddits like r/libertarian as a mockery by their detractors
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- dang 7y ago
  "Eschew flamebait. Don't introduce flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
zimpenfish 7y ago
> Using child porn as a pretext to justify a puritanical purge of all erotic content is absolutely obnoxious IMO. And not what Tumblr did - their erotic content ban was under way before the CP snafu got them temporarily kicked out of the iOS App Store. Consensus is that it saves them from SESTA-FOSTA legal troubles.
- threeseed 7y ago
  How is it any different to Reddit though ? Plenty of porn subreddits around that could be used for sex trafficking particularly private ones.
  - dageshi 7y ago
    The mods on porn subs generally abide and enforce the rules from what I've seen. Plus in sheer numbers terms there's a lot fewer subreddits than there were tumblr's, practically speaking you could actually have a team of people keeping an eye on subreddits in a way that would probably be impossible with tumblr due to sheer volume.
    - mrep 7y ago
      They are also quarantining a lot of subs that have content advertisers don't like and quarantined subs don't show ads AFAIK.
      - syntheticnature 7y ago
        No NSFW reddit subs show ads anymore, quarantined or otherwise: https://www.reddit.com/r/redditads/comments/bdwlin/update_to_nsfw_advertising_policy/ https://www.reddit.com/r/redditads/comments/bdwlin/update_to...
    - Bartweiss 7y ago
      > Plus in sheer numbers terms there's a lot fewer subreddits than there were tumblr's Fewer, and lower discoverability. If you ban a sub, the mods have to bother registering a new one, and if you ban the mods too I believe they'll need to 'break in' new accounts to do that. Once they do, it'll just be an empty sub sitting there passively until they promote it on other subs (where it'll draw reports) or on other sites (which is a hassle). And without active moderation, spam users destroy spam subs by overwhelming their intentional content. On tumblr, a new account just takes a new email, and they can be 'promoted' easily because following real users or reblogging their content with ads sends them notifications. It's pretty much the ideal structure for automation-friendly spam.
dmix 7y ago
https://mamot.fr/system/media_attachments/files/001/582/923/original/e2136d6b4d317af6.jpeg https://mamot.fr/system/media_attachments/files/001/582/923/... Classic comic from years ago
- Simon_says 7y ago
  That's good.
- McDev 7y ago
  I'll have to use that when talking about our country's (UK) decision to force everyone going onto a porn site to provide ID
karpodiem 7y ago
Be sure to put in a bid!
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SolarNet 7y ago
The sad thing is that I don't think it actually did anything to fix any of the child abuse problem tumblr - and all modern social media sties - actually has. Though tumblr dying will prevent their particularly boneheaded abuse problems from remaining relevant, so perhaps in a way it did fix it.

Simple_Guy 7y ago

>As a sex positive liberal What do you consider as the should-be age of consent?

agentdrtran 7y ago
he said liberal, not libertarian
- Stratoscope 7y ago
  I think the word you were looking for was "libertine". Definitely not the same thing as "libertarian".
  - s4vi0r 7y ago
    Libertarians (the right wing kind, at least) pretty commonly get made fun of/characterized as pedophiles among other things so they probably did mean libertarian lol
    - lovich 7y ago
      This comment has been downvoted but the phrase, "What if the child consents?" Is actually bandied about frequently on political subreddits like r/libertarian as a mockery by their detractors
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dang 7y ago
"Eschew flamebait. Don't introduce flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

zimpenfish 7y ago

> Using child porn as a pretext to justify a puritanical purge of all erotic content is absolutely obnoxious IMO. And not what Tumblr did - their erotic content ban was under way before the CP snafu got them temporarily kicked out of the iOS App Store. Consensus is that it saves them from SESTA-FOSTA legal troubles.

threeseed 7y ago
How is it any different to Reddit though ? Plenty of porn subreddits around that could be used for sex trafficking particularly private ones.
- dageshi 7y ago
  The mods on porn subs generally abide and enforce the rules from what I've seen. Plus in sheer numbers terms there's a lot fewer subreddits than there were tumblr's, practically speaking you could actually have a team of people keeping an eye on subreddits in a way that would probably be impossible with tumblr due to sheer volume.
  - mrep 7y ago
    They are also quarantining a lot of subs that have content advertisers don't like and quarantined subs don't show ads AFAIK.
    - syntheticnature 7y ago
      No NSFW reddit subs show ads anymore, quarantined or otherwise: https://www.reddit.com/r/redditads/comments/bdwlin/update_to_nsfw_advertising_policy/ https://www.reddit.com/r/redditads/comments/bdwlin/update_to...
  - Bartweiss 7y ago
    > Plus in sheer numbers terms there's a lot fewer subreddits than there were tumblr's Fewer, and lower discoverability. If you ban a sub, the mods have to bother registering a new one, and if you ban the mods too I believe they'll need to 'break in' new accounts to do that. Once they do, it'll just be an empty sub sitting there passively until they promote it on other subs (where it'll draw reports) or on other sites (which is a hassle). And without active moderation, spam users destroy spam subs by overwhelming their intentional content. On tumblr, a new account just takes a new email, and they can be 'promoted' easily because following real users or reblogging their content with ads sends them notifications. It's pretty much the ideal structure for automation-friendly spam.

dmix 7y ago

https://mamot.fr/system/media_attachments/files/001/582/923/original/e2136d6b4d317af6.jpeg https://mamot.fr/system/media_attachments/files/001/582/923/... Classic comic from years ago

Simon_says 7y ago
That's good.
McDev 7y ago
I'll have to use that when talking about our country's (UK) decision to force everyone going onto a porn site to provide ID

karpodiem 7y ago

Be sure to put in a bid!

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SolarNet 7y ago

The sad thing is that I don't think it actually did anything to fix any of the child abuse problem tumblr - and all modern social media sties - actually has. Though tumblr dying will prevent their particularly boneheaded abuse problems from remaining relevant, so perhaps in a way it did fix it.