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in _all_ regions, regularly, Probably not... Depends on how you define "regularly".. but even one or two a year could be counted as regular for some definition

by zie 8y ago

in _all_ regions, regularly, Probably not... Depends on how you define "regularly".. but even one or two a year could be counted as regular for some definition of regular. * Azure: 12 user-facing outages this year so far. source: https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/status/history/ https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/status/history/ * Amazon: They don't make their status history public it seems, but I see 5 easily searchable outages from last year. I would venture to bet their actual outage history is not any better than Azure or Google. * Google: 23 from this year so far source: https://status.cloud.google.com/summary https://status.cloud.google.com/summary These numbers are from when I counted in March 2019, so ~ 3 months, their outages are in double digits. That's TERRIBLE. Obviously the above numbers are not across _all_ regions, they are just a total count across all regions.

cheeze 8y ago
Eh, just counting outages doesn't do anything imo. Most providers consider something like < 99% availability for > 5 minutes an outage. Outages like that are expected in any single region and product. If I really need perfect availability (I probably don't), then I can leverage the multiple regions and build a failovers strategy. I do not expect global outages which affect multiple regions at the same time. That's just amateur hour when it is a common occurrence.
- zie 8y ago
  Of course there are solutions to outages. Multiple regions, failover, multiple cloud providers, or just don't put all your eggs in $CLOUD, and do some on-prem as well, etc, etc, etc. There are many ways to handle outages. I'm just saying if you are averaging 4+ outages PER MONTH across all of your services, you are probably doing something wrong. These providers are on schedule to pass 50 outages this year! All the places I've ever worked, if we can count our customer facing outages per year past the number of planets humans live on(1) we consider ourselves a total failure that year and re-work our planning. We haven't had to re-work our plans in ~ 5 years. Our longest outage in the past 5 years? 1 hr long. Granted I'm not the scale of $CLOUD, but there is zero reason they can't get serious about uptime, they just don't bother. People are still flocking to $CLOUD in droves, despite their crappy uptimes. It's not rocket science to make stuff work, you just have to get Boring(tm). Where Boring here means using standard, boring, well understood technology that everyone knows and understands and not $NEWHOTNESS. $NEWHOTNESS is guaranteed to break in new and exciting ways.

by zie 8y ago

cheeze 8y ago

Eh, just counting outages doesn't do anything imo. Most providers consider something like < 99% availability for > 5 minutes an outage. Outages like that are expected in any single region and product. If I really need perfect availability (I probably don't), then I can leverage the multiple regions and build a failovers strategy. I do not expect global outages which affect multiple regions at the same time. That's just amateur hour when it is a common occurrence.

zie 8y ago
Of course there are solutions to outages. Multiple regions, failover, multiple cloud providers, or just don't put all your eggs in $CLOUD, and do some on-prem as well, etc, etc, etc. There are many ways to handle outages. I'm just saying if you are averaging 4+ outages PER MONTH across all of your services, you are probably doing something wrong. These providers are on schedule to pass 50 outages this year! All the places I've ever worked, if we can count our customer facing outages per year past the number of planets humans live on(1) we consider ourselves a total failure that year and re-work our planning. We haven't had to re-work our plans in ~ 5 years. Our longest outage in the past 5 years? 1 hr long. Granted I'm not the scale of $CLOUD, but there is zero reason they can't get serious about uptime, they just don't bother. People are still flocking to $CLOUD in droves, despite their crappy uptimes. It's not rocket science to make stuff work, you just have to get Boring(tm). Where Boring here means using standard, boring, well understood technology that everyone knows and understands and not $NEWHOTNESS. $NEWHOTNESS is guaranteed to break in new and exciting ways.