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As far as I know, it does not have USE flags, but you can customize the compilation however you want, adding build options, patches, etc. They also provide bina

As far as I know, it does not have USE flags, but you can customize the compilation however you want, adding build options, patches, etc. They also provide binaries for a good amount of packages if you don't want to build some from source.

LargoLasskhyfv 7y ago
I see. But that is not the point. I can customize any compilation anywhere. But it is a hassle i can do without. I really miss the "automagic" of Gentoo because this feature was intrinsic to their package management. I'm watching Guix(XD/System/Whatever) since years, browsing the docs, reading this and that, and it seems to me like just another rpm, deb with some nice addons. And not too inviting at all, because who likes ghettos which ideologically shun this and that which unfortunately is part of my life? Anyways, interesting work whith reproducable bootstrapping in GNU Mes. (sigh)
- Crestwave 7y ago
  It's not just like those at all... did you think that I was saying that you can just compile things manually or something? You can define build options and such for a group of packages using Guix; there just isn't an abstraction like USE flags. You can find more info at https://ambrevar.xyz/guix-advance/index.html#orgc3c05c9 https://ambrevar.xyz/guix-advance/index.html#orgc3c05c9. And I don't consider its other features just "some nice addons". It's easy to build things from source; in fact, it automatically does it by default if a binary isn't available. It's contained in a directory, you can roll back to a previous state, it's reproducible, everything can be configured through one file, etc. Guix is one of the package managers most different from apt and such; if there's anything it's similar to, it's Nix, which IIRC it's based on/inspired by. Also, I'm curious as to what it is that you do that they shun? Is it working on proprietary software or something?
  - LargoLasskhyfv 7y ago
    Thank you for that link, i'll park that in some tab for later reading after skimming over. What i meant to say with shunning is exactly the thing with proprietary software. I need that to work. All i ever read up until now was handwavy referrals to some obscure "guix-channels". So i searched some, and found none. It's not that i can't mobilize some hardcore search machine foo. It's just that i don't want to do this anymore, because i feel it is wasted time, which ends into subscribing into some ghettoish cult, chanting askew "commercial baaaad, nooo goood, we better food...", ...while in reality i need to get things f...ing done by whichever means. Which meant Windows for the last few years. So, whenever i read about something interesting to me, considering to spend my free time with it, this annoys me to no end, because it feels like trying to make me jump through burning loops like some trained animal. I can't stand this sort of stuff anymore. Especially given the fact how much hardware only really works with binary blobs, at least when it's current, and not some obsoleted gear or niche systems. Anyways // ENDRANT (sorry)

LargoLasskhyfv 7y ago

I see. But that is not the point. I can customize any compilation anywhere. But it is a hassle i can do without. I really miss the "automagic" of Gentoo because this feature was intrinsic to their package management. I'm watching Guix(XD/System/Whatever) since years, browsing the docs, reading this and that, and it seems to me like just another rpm, deb with some nice addons. And not too inviting at all, because who likes ghettos which ideologically shun this and that which unfortunately is part of my life? Anyways, interesting work whith reproducable bootstrapping in GNU Mes. (sigh)

Crestwave 7y ago
It's not just like those at all... did you think that I was saying that you can just compile things manually or something? You can define build options and such for a group of packages using Guix; there just isn't an abstraction like USE flags. You can find more info at https://ambrevar.xyz/guix-advance/index.html#orgc3c05c9 https://ambrevar.xyz/guix-advance/index.html#orgc3c05c9. And I don't consider its other features just "some nice addons". It's easy to build things from source; in fact, it automatically does it by default if a binary isn't available. It's contained in a directory, you can roll back to a previous state, it's reproducible, everything can be configured through one file, etc. Guix is one of the package managers most different from apt and such; if there's anything it's similar to, it's Nix, which IIRC it's based on/inspired by. Also, I'm curious as to what it is that you do that they shun? Is it working on proprietary software or something?
- LargoLasskhyfv 7y ago
  Thank you for that link, i'll park that in some tab for later reading after skimming over. What i meant to say with shunning is exactly the thing with proprietary software. I need that to work. All i ever read up until now was handwavy referrals to some obscure "guix-channels". So i searched some, and found none. It's not that i can't mobilize some hardcore search machine foo. It's just that i don't want to do this anymore, because i feel it is wasted time, which ends into subscribing into some ghettoish cult, chanting askew "commercial baaaad, nooo goood, we better food...", ...while in reality i need to get things f...ing done by whichever means. Which meant Windows for the last few years. So, whenever i read about something interesting to me, considering to spend my free time with it, this annoys me to no end, because it feels like trying to make me jump through burning loops like some trained animal. I can't stand this sort of stuff anymore. Especially given the fact how much hardware only really works with binary blobs, at least when it's current, and not some obsoleted gear or niche systems. Anyways // ENDRANT (sorry)