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Was driving on a back country road. Those living in the area lived in a beautiful place, but in poverty. The beautiful mountain views were marred by the windm

Was driving on a back country road. Those living in the area lived in a beautiful place, but in poverty. The beautiful mountain views were marred by the windmills put there at the behest of elites living in far off cities. The quiet of the countryside was broken by the constant thrum of the windmills. I really couldn't imagine living there with that constant low frequency noise. With the best of intentions, these poor people were robbed of one of the very few perks in their lives - the beauty of the area they lived in, and the peace and quiet they once had. EDIT: given the area of the country, it is highly likely that a large number of these people had formerly been employed in the coal industry.

threeseed 8y ago
You should go spend some time in the South Pacific then. And talk to the locals about the impending devastation of their countries and entire way of living. Or how about go spend some times in hurricane or snow affected areas around the US which have been devastated by the increasing instability of our climate. Most of these people would kill for a stable climate and some low frequency noise.
davesque 8y ago
> EDIT: given the area of the country, it is highly likely that a large number of these people had formerly been employed in the coal industry. I'm not following the logic of this.
magpie_mcgee 8y ago
If you hate what windmills do to the view, you should see what mountain top removal does to it.
opportune 8y ago
I can't imagine thinking millions or billions of people getting displaced and potentially losing secure access to food is less important than having to look at windmills
ajross 8y ago
All resource exploitation has externalities, and sure, those are real costs and worth discussing. If you want to make a case that the externalities of wind power are more expensive than those for coal extraction and power generation, then you go ahead and make that case. But cut the hyperbole and poetry, dude. I see your "marred views" and "constant thrums" and raise you a bunch of fucking removed mountaintops, an acid rain epidemic and generations of health problems we're still paying for. "Marred views", sigh...
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hyperbovine 8y ago
Oh, the irony. I presume you are referring to those mountaintops which still exist.
kirrent 8y ago
Was driving on a back country road. The beautiful bush views were marred by the coal mines put there at the behest of elites living down in Sydney. The quiet of the countryside was broken by the constant thrum of machinery. I really couldn't imagine living there with that constant coal dust and noise. With no good intentions at all, these poor people were robbed of one of the very few perks in their lives - the beauty of the area they lived in, and the peace and quiet they once had.
tpkj 8y ago
Windmills do have controversy surrounding them, and whatever the case may be, I would neither want to live by a coal plant nor a wind turbine. Adverse health effects of industrial wind turbines https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3653647/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3653647/ Does living near wind turbines negatively impact human health? https://phys.org/news/2018-06-turbines-negatively-impact-human-health.html https://phys.org/news/2018-06-turbines-negatively-impact-hum... Can Wind Turbines Make You Sick https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/article/can-wind-turbines-make-you-sick/ https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/article/can-wind-turbines-make... Vermont Sets New Noise Rules for Wind Turbines https://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/article/vermont-sets-new-noise-rules-for-wind-turbines https://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/article/vermont-sets-ne...
SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
My small British village has a wind farm right on its doorstep. When it was built the utility company had to set up a grant worth millions to fund local projects which immediately benefitted the local area, and I believe we get an ongoing subsidy from it until a predetermined date. Is this not the case where you're from? Incidentally, I've walked through it many times and never heard a "thrum". I've never heard them from my house at all and they're less than half a mile away.

threeseed 8y ago

You should go spend some time in the South Pacific then. And talk to the locals about the impending devastation of their countries and entire way of living. Or how about go spend some times in hurricane or snow affected areas around the US which have been devastated by the increasing instability of our climate. Most of these people would kill for a stable climate and some low frequency noise.

davesque 8y ago

> EDIT: given the area of the country, it is highly likely that a large number of these people had formerly been employed in the coal industry. I'm not following the logic of this.

magpie_mcgee 8y ago

If you hate what windmills do to the view, you should see what mountain top removal does to it.

opportune 8y ago

I can't imagine thinking millions or billions of people getting displaced and potentially losing secure access to food is less important than having to look at windmills

ajross 8y ago

All resource exploitation has externalities, and sure, those are real costs and worth discussing. If you want to make a case that the externalities of wind power are more expensive than those for coal extraction and power generation, then you go ahead and make that case. But cut the hyperbole and poetry, dude. I see your "marred views" and "constant thrums" and raise you a bunch of fucking removed mountaintops, an acid rain epidemic and generations of health problems we're still paying for. "Marred views", sigh...

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hyperbovine 8y ago

Oh, the irony. I presume you are referring to those mountaintops which still exist.

kirrent 8y ago

Was driving on a back country road. The beautiful bush views were marred by the coal mines put there at the behest of elites living down in Sydney. The quiet of the countryside was broken by the constant thrum of machinery. I really couldn't imagine living there with that constant coal dust and noise. With no good intentions at all, these poor people were robbed of one of the very few perks in their lives - the beauty of the area they lived in, and the peace and quiet they once had.

tpkj 8y ago

Windmills do have controversy surrounding them, and whatever the case may be, I would neither want to live by a coal plant nor a wind turbine. Adverse health effects of industrial wind turbines https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3653647/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3653647/ Does living near wind turbines negatively impact human health? https://phys.org/news/2018-06-turbines-negatively-impact-human-health.html https://phys.org/news/2018-06-turbines-negatively-impact-hum... Can Wind Turbines Make You Sick https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/article/can-wind-turbines-make-you-sick/ https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/article/can-wind-turbines-make... Vermont Sets New Noise Rules for Wind Turbines https://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/article/vermont-sets-new-noise-rules-for-wind-turbines https://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/article/vermont-sets-ne...

SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago

My small British village has a wind farm right on its doorstep. When it was built the utility company had to set up a grant worth millions to fund local projects which immediately benefitted the local area, and I believe we get an ongoing subsidy from it until a predetermined date. Is this not the case where you're from? Incidentally, I've walked through it many times and never heard a "thrum". I've never heard them from my house at all and they're less than half a mile away.