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Isn't it a bit different have a photo tied to an ostensibly anonymous internet account which you have control over, and have a photo that is legally tied to you

Isn't it a bit different have a photo tied to an ostensibly anonymous internet account which you have control over, and have a photo that is legally tied to your person and leased out by the government?

iNate2000 7y ago
CBP already has my photo and name from my passport.
jancsika 7y ago
The person's twitter account uses their given name with a personal photo. So replace "ostensibly" with "absolutely not." Also, let's assume we're talking reality and not theory. Given that, what's the difference between JetBlue querying a proprietary goldmine of data (or multiple ones) vs. querying a (probably) proprietary goldmine of data that was collected through a contract with DHS? In either instance, the short term solution would be to generate negative publicity for JetBlue until they cancel the program. Also in either instance, the only conceivable way to keep the goldmine off limits would be through federal legislation.
- lurquer 7y ago
  I think the horse has already left the barn. An individual with $500 worth of equipment could quickly create a database of facial biometrics for a good portion of his city. What kind of legislation could prevent this? Outlaw private ownerships of cameras and computers? I do not think there is any way to stop what is coming...
  - acct1771 7y ago
    It's the power inherent to the holder of that database that makes the difference...
  - jancsika 7y ago
    "I think the horse has already left the barn. An individual with $500 worth of equipment could disrupt cellphone reception along an entire corridor of an interstate. What kind of legislation could prevent this? Outlaw private ownership of SDR? I do not think there is any way to stop what is coming..." Keep in mind that story was just about a single driver's concern over safety. There is also a huge economic incentive for hotels and other business to disrupt signals to force people to pay to use their own wifi services. Marriott tried that. Guess what the consequence was. So if the horse has already left the barn, how do you explain the fact that cell phone towers seem to work in practice, esp. in large cities like NYC and LA? How is it that nearly every single baseband OS in existence is locked down to comply with FCC regulations?

iNate2000 7y ago

CBP already has my photo and name from my passport.

jancsika 7y ago

The person's twitter account uses their given name with a personal photo. So replace "ostensibly" with "absolutely not." Also, let's assume we're talking reality and not theory. Given that, what's the difference between JetBlue querying a proprietary goldmine of data (or multiple ones) vs. querying a (probably) proprietary goldmine of data that was collected through a contract with DHS? In either instance, the short term solution would be to generate negative publicity for JetBlue until they cancel the program. Also in either instance, the only conceivable way to keep the goldmine off limits would be through federal legislation.

lurquer 7y ago
I think the horse has already left the barn. An individual with $500 worth of equipment could quickly create a database of facial biometrics for a good portion of his city. What kind of legislation could prevent this? Outlaw private ownerships of cameras and computers? I do not think there is any way to stop what is coming...
- acct1771 7y ago
  It's the power inherent to the holder of that database that makes the difference...
- jancsika 7y ago
  "I think the horse has already left the barn. An individual with $500 worth of equipment could disrupt cellphone reception along an entire corridor of an interstate. What kind of legislation could prevent this? Outlaw private ownership of SDR? I do not think there is any way to stop what is coming..." Keep in mind that story was just about a single driver's concern over safety. There is also a huge economic incentive for hotels and other business to disrupt signals to force people to pay to use their own wifi services. Marriott tried that. Guess what the consequence was. So if the horse has already left the barn, how do you explain the fact that cell phone towers seem to work in practice, esp. in large cities like NYC and LA? How is it that nearly every single baseband OS in existence is locked down to comply with FCC regulations?