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>But imagine a doctor that merely says "Don't get vaccines, they cause autism" but doesn't falsify any data. That doctor is probably going to be erased from the

>But imagine a doctor that merely says "Don't get vaccines, they cause autism" but doesn't falsify any data. That doctor is probably going to be erased from the English register. No, but they would likely be censured. A doctor has to spectacularly screw up to get struck off. It's not done lightly. One obstetrician accidentally decapitated a baby during birth and kept her licence. Wakefield faked data, concealed two financial conflicts of interest, and ordered painful, invasive procedures (spinal taps and colonoscopies) on severely autistic children that were not clinically indicated and that he did not have the training to interpret. He even paid children at his son's birthday party for blood samples, then laughed about them crying during a later talk. That is not the sort of man I want practicing medicine.

DanBC 7y ago
Hold on - I'm not defending Wakefield. I'm saying he did a lot more than falsifying data. The falsifying data alone would eb enough to strike him off, but he did a lot more than that. > A doctor has to spectacularly screw up to get struck off. It's not done lightly. One obstetrician accidentally decapitated a baby during birth and kept her licence. You're talking about medical error, and I agree you're right there. I'm talking about dishonesty, and doctors (in England) get struck off for dishonesty relatively easily. Mistakes happen, and can be remediated. Dishonesty is seen as harder to remediate. No patient harm, but over charging the patient: https://www.mpts-uk.org/-/media/mpts-rod-files/miss-susan-lim-mey-lee-17-april-2019.pdf https://www.mpts-uk.org/-/media/mpts-rod-files/miss-susan-li... False expenses claims, no patient harm: https://www.mpts-uk.org/-/media/mpts-rod-files/dr-kirsten-teresa-elizabeth-guest-28-february-2019.pdf https://www.mpts-uk.org/-/media/mpts-rod-files/dr-kirsten-te... Failure to report to duty; not paying back a debt to the employer (no patient harm): https://www.mpts-uk.org/-/media/mpts-rod-files/dr-chokkalinga-pandian-14-feb-2019.pdf https://www.mpts-uk.org/-/media/mpts-rod-files/dr-chokkaling...

DanBC 7y ago

Hold on - I'm not defending Wakefield. I'm saying he did a lot more than falsifying data. The falsifying data alone would eb enough to strike him off, but he did a lot more than that. > A doctor has to spectacularly screw up to get struck off. It's not done lightly. One obstetrician accidentally decapitated a baby during birth and kept her licence. You're talking about medical error, and I agree you're right there. I'm talking about dishonesty, and doctors (in England) get struck off for dishonesty relatively easily. Mistakes happen, and can be remediated. Dishonesty is seen as harder to remediate. No patient harm, but over charging the patient: https://www.mpts-uk.org/-/media/mpts-rod-files/miss-susan-lim-mey-lee-17-april-2019.pdf https://www.mpts-uk.org/-/media/mpts-rod-files/miss-susan-li... False expenses claims, no patient harm: https://www.mpts-uk.org/-/media/mpts-rod-files/dr-kirsten-teresa-elizabeth-guest-28-february-2019.pdf https://www.mpts-uk.org/-/media/mpts-rod-files/dr-kirsten-te... Failure to report to duty; not paying back a debt to the employer (no patient harm): https://www.mpts-uk.org/-/media/mpts-rod-files/dr-chokkalinga-pandian-14-feb-2019.pdf https://www.mpts-uk.org/-/media/mpts-rod-files/dr-chokkaling...