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Funny how most of you doesn't seem to understand that it's not the banned people who are dangerous. It's Facebook. Stay off the platform and encourage others t

Funny how most of you doesn't seem to understand that it's not the banned people who are dangerous. It's Facebook. Stay off the platform and encourage others to do the same. Read news from respected news outlets and remember that there are always multiple sides to a story.

ehsankia 7y ago
Why not both? They're dangerous in different ways, but just because Facebook has its set of issues doesn't mean those people should have a platform to spread their non-sense to the masses.
- gridlockd 7y ago
  Can you explain to me how Milo is dangerous? I can see the case for Alex Jones, who spreads the kind of misinformation that leads certain individuals to "take action". But Milo? He's basically a clown.
  - ilikehurdles 7y ago
    Speaking at universities with his clearly anti-trans message while projecting the photos and identities of trans students at those universities during his speeches is clearly dangerous.
    - gridlockd 7y ago
      I had to look up the context for this and as expected it's not quite the way you make it sound. You use the word "trans students" in the plural, but it was only a single student. The photo shown was a screen grab from an interview that this person themself chose to give to local television, in which their name and university association is displayed. It's not like Milo "outed" anyone here. The speech in question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t1ufzttyUM&feature=youtu.be&t=2959 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t1ufzttyUM&feature=youtu.be... If this passes the threshold of "dangerous", that's a very low threshold.
  - ehsankia 7y ago
    At the surface he mind seem harmless, but he uses very similar tactics to Alex Jones behind the scenes. He will often make insane statements, and once he's called out on it, he pulls the "I was obviously joking, were you stupid enough to think I actually meant that" card. The issue is that his followers most definitely take him seriously, and that's exactly how he's dangerous.
    - vixen99 7y ago
      How about giving chapter and verse when you want to criticise people instead of making these woolly assertions as in 'he will make insane statements'? Example? I'm neither arguing for or againt Milo, merely irritated by this cheap rhetorical trick of making ex-cathedra announcements as if everyone agrees they're truisms. They are not, at least not in a group of folk with diverse opinions.
- vixen99 7y ago
  I suppose we can assume you don't class yourself as one of the masses, those poor benighted souls who have to be protected from 'non-sense' as defined by you?
fourier_mode 7y ago
That's exactly the problem. Facebook was intended to be a platform for fun, childish online interaction but soon media outlets hijacked it, and now it is a source of new for most of my friends.
wtdata 7y ago
I agree with most you said, but I would like to point that some years ago, respected news outlets, would normally present you both sides of the story themselves. That has become very rare now-a-days.

ehsankia 7y ago

Why not both? They're dangerous in different ways, but just because Facebook has its set of issues doesn't mean those people should have a platform to spread their non-sense to the masses.

gridlockd 7y ago
Can you explain to me how Milo is dangerous? I can see the case for Alex Jones, who spreads the kind of misinformation that leads certain individuals to "take action". But Milo? He's basically a clown.
- ilikehurdles 7y ago
  Speaking at universities with his clearly anti-trans message while projecting the photos and identities of trans students at those universities during his speeches is clearly dangerous.
  - gridlockd 7y ago
    I had to look up the context for this and as expected it's not quite the way you make it sound. You use the word "trans students" in the plural, but it was only a single student. The photo shown was a screen grab from an interview that this person themself chose to give to local television, in which their name and university association is displayed. It's not like Milo "outed" anyone here. The speech in question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t1ufzttyUM&feature=youtu.be&t=2959 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t1ufzttyUM&feature=youtu.be... If this passes the threshold of "dangerous", that's a very low threshold.
- ehsankia 7y ago
  At the surface he mind seem harmless, but he uses very similar tactics to Alex Jones behind the scenes. He will often make insane statements, and once he's called out on it, he pulls the "I was obviously joking, were you stupid enough to think I actually meant that" card. The issue is that his followers most definitely take him seriously, and that's exactly how he's dangerous.
  - vixen99 7y ago
    How about giving chapter and verse when you want to criticise people instead of making these woolly assertions as in 'he will make insane statements'? Example? I'm neither arguing for or againt Milo, merely irritated by this cheap rhetorical trick of making ex-cathedra announcements as if everyone agrees they're truisms. They are not, at least not in a group of folk with diverse opinions.
vixen99 7y ago
I suppose we can assume you don't class yourself as one of the masses, those poor benighted souls who have to be protected from 'non-sense' as defined by you?

fourier_mode 7y ago

That's exactly the problem. Facebook was intended to be a platform for fun, childish online interaction but soon media outlets hijacked it, and now it is a source of new for most of my friends.

wtdata 7y ago

I agree with most you said, but I would like to point that some years ago, respected news outlets, would normally present you both sides of the story themselves. That has become very rare now-a-days.