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Milo Yiannopoulos getting the bully pulpit on TV and university stages, to say, as though it were a fait acompli, that trans people are sick is dangerous. Paul

by ngcazz 7y ago

Milo Yiannopoulos getting the bully pulpit on TV and university stages, to say, as though it were a fait acompli, that trans people are sick is dangerous. Paul Joseph Watson spewing misinformation about the extent of the refugee crisis is dangerous.

anbop 7y ago
Doesn’t the medical establishment consider trans people to be “sick,” in that they have the disorder known as gender dysphoria?
Mirioron 7y ago
>Paul Joseph Watson spewing misinformation about the extent of the refugee crisis is dangerous. Is it any more dangerous than the lies politicians spewed about it in Europe though? We know that a bunch of those politicians straight up either lied or didn't know what they were talking about. We have had terror attacks carried out in Europe by refugees or asylum seekers that have killed people. Some sources even claim that quite many people have died [0], but I am not sure how credible this is. [0] https://www.heritage.org/sites/default/files/2018-06/BG3314.pdf https://www.heritage.org/sites/default/files/2018-06/BG3314....
- jsjw7sbw 7y ago
  It's the classic leftist projection again
- razakel 7y ago
  >We have had terror attacks carried out in Europe by refugees or asylum seekers that have killed people. For some bizarre reason, people get angry when you bomb them.
  - tastygreenapple 7y ago
    Yes, this is why America started its war on terror after 9/11.
    - razakel 7y ago
      >Yes, this is why America started its war on terror after 9/11. Huh, I thought 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers came from a country allied with America, that wants to buy $350 billion of weapons and military technology from it...
    - 3131s 7y ago
      Because Iraq bombed us? When did that happen?
  - Mirioron 7y ago
    I don't see how this is relevant to the discussion. The question is whether information about the refugee crisis is dangerous or not. Every attack carried out by a refugee or asylum seeker wouldn't have happened if they hadn't been there.
t_dunks 7y ago
I think if lying about facts and figures is this level of dangerous, then there are many more people who should be banned... such as Obama. Only different is he is stating "facts and figures" (even if they are false) that you agree with.
Pimpus 7y ago
Trans people absolutely are sick. Trying to normalize them is, ironically, dangerous and fringe.
- ben_w 7y ago
  Briefly following my graduation, I was friends with more trans women than cis women. The closest any of them got to seeming unwell was that one was a workaholic.
- berbec 7y ago
  Is this flame bait or do you actually believe this? It saddens me to see this here on HN
  - TheAdamAndChe 7y ago
    The issue is that this is not a solved cultural issue. We don't know what causes trans people to be trans. Some believe it's nature, some say it's nurture. With such an up-in-the-air issue, is it really right of us to suppress the speech of those who think it's affected more by how we're raised?
- dang 7y ago
  If you post flamebait like this again we will ban you. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

by ngcazz 7y ago

anbop 7y ago

Doesn’t the medical establishment consider trans people to be “sick,” in that they have the disorder known as gender dysphoria?

Mirioron 7y ago

>Paul Joseph Watson spewing misinformation about the extent of the refugee crisis is dangerous. Is it any more dangerous than the lies politicians spewed about it in Europe though? We know that a bunch of those politicians straight up either lied or didn't know what they were talking about. We have had terror attacks carried out in Europe by refugees or asylum seekers that have killed people. Some sources even claim that quite many people have died [0], but I am not sure how credible this is. [0] https://www.heritage.org/sites/default/files/2018-06/BG3314.pdf https://www.heritage.org/sites/default/files/2018-06/BG3314....

jsjw7sbw 7y ago
It's the classic leftist projection again
razakel 7y ago
>We have had terror attacks carried out in Europe by refugees or asylum seekers that have killed people. For some bizarre reason, people get angry when you bomb them.
- tastygreenapple 7y ago
  Yes, this is why America started its war on terror after 9/11.
  - razakel 7y ago
    >Yes, this is why America started its war on terror after 9/11. Huh, I thought 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers came from a country allied with America, that wants to buy $350 billion of weapons and military technology from it...
  - 3131s 7y ago
    Because Iraq bombed us? When did that happen?
- Mirioron 7y ago
  I don't see how this is relevant to the discussion. The question is whether information about the refugee crisis is dangerous or not. Every attack carried out by a refugee or asylum seeker wouldn't have happened if they hadn't been there.

t_dunks 7y ago

I think if lying about facts and figures is this level of dangerous, then there are many more people who should be banned... such as Obama. Only different is he is stating "facts and figures" (even if they are false) that you agree with.

Pimpus 7y ago

Trans people absolutely are sick. Trying to normalize them is, ironically, dangerous and fringe.

ben_w 7y ago
Briefly following my graduation, I was friends with more trans women than cis women. The closest any of them got to seeming unwell was that one was a workaholic.
berbec 7y ago
Is this flame bait or do you actually believe this? It saddens me to see this here on HN
- TheAdamAndChe 7y ago
  The issue is that this is not a solved cultural issue. We don't know what causes trans people to be trans. Some believe it's nature, some say it's nurture. With such an up-in-the-air issue, is it really right of us to suppress the speech of those who think it's affected more by how we're raised?
dang 7y ago
If you post flamebait like this again we will ban you. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html