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> how exactly are Milo Yiannopolous and Paul Joseph Watson "dangerous"? "Pizzagate," for example. Milo and InfoWars pushed a loony conspiracy theory until som

> how exactly are Milo Yiannopolous and Paul Joseph Watson "dangerous"? "Pizzagate," for example. Milo and InfoWars pushed a loony conspiracy theory until some guy believed them enough to show up at a random restaurant with an assault rifle, which seems dangerous. They did it to sell fake nutritional supplements. EDIT: They're welcome to continue ranting away on their own blogs, but I don't see any reason that Facebook should give them a free megaphone.

bdcravens 7y ago
If we are measuring effects, shouldn't they start banning anti-vaxxers?
- astura 7y ago
  Indigogo and GoFundMe already do.
- cm2012 7y ago
  They are: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/mar/07/facebook-anti-vaxx-vaccine-hoax-ads https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/mar/07/facebook-...
- dymk 7y ago
  Guess what, they've already started! https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2019/03/combatting-vaccine-misinformation/ https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2019/03/combatting-vaccine-misi...
- username223 7y ago
  Yes. Why are the measles still a thing?
  - cowwithbeef 7y ago
    The MMR vaccine does not give full immunity(the reason booster shots exist), immigrants can enter the country while carrying the disease, and sometimes live virus vaccines like MMR can leave the people who get them contagious. The only ways to have zero cases of any disease in the country are to either eradicate it globally (like small pox), or to eradicate it nationally and prevent cross border transmission (like polio).
    - matt4077 7y ago
      I’m flagging this for the xenophobic/racist stereotype that immigrants are a major source of MMR. Recent data on measles, the disease currently in the news, show that rates in Central America are comparable to or even lower than in the US: https://www.who.int/immunization/monitoring_surveillance/burden/vpd/surveillance_type/active/_mcv1_1980_2016.gif?ua=1 https://www.who.int/immunization/monitoring_surveillance/bur...
      - TheAdamAndChe 7y ago
        Nothing in the post stated that immigrants are a major source of MMR, only that stopping cross border transmission is a requirement for effective eradication.
      - cowwithbeef 7y ago
        I can't possibly explain the mechanics of disease eradication without mentioning the movement of infected people. I don't want to get reported for bigotry though so I should simply have not replied on this topic to guarantee my continued use of this site. Unfortunately that means all the discussions here are partial. The ability of hacker news users to educate themselves with discussion is severely limited by the self censorship you impose on us. The fact you completely misunderstood what I said is not surprising as you likely choose to live in a censored world of partial arguments that leave you ignorant, uneducated, and comfortably numb. I would still never report you though.

bdcravens 7y ago

If we are measuring effects, shouldn't they start banning anti-vaxxers?

astura 7y ago
Indigogo and GoFundMe already do.
cm2012 7y ago
They are: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/mar/07/facebook-anti-vaxx-vaccine-hoax-ads https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/mar/07/facebook-...
dymk 7y ago
Guess what, they've already started! https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2019/03/combatting-vaccine-misinformation/ https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2019/03/combatting-vaccine-misi...
username223 7y ago
Yes. Why are the measles still a thing?
- cowwithbeef 7y ago
  The MMR vaccine does not give full immunity(the reason booster shots exist), immigrants can enter the country while carrying the disease, and sometimes live virus vaccines like MMR can leave the people who get them contagious. The only ways to have zero cases of any disease in the country are to either eradicate it globally (like small pox), or to eradicate it nationally and prevent cross border transmission (like polio).
  - matt4077 7y ago
    I’m flagging this for the xenophobic/racist stereotype that immigrants are a major source of MMR. Recent data on measles, the disease currently in the news, show that rates in Central America are comparable to or even lower than in the US: https://www.who.int/immunization/monitoring_surveillance/burden/vpd/surveillance_type/active/_mcv1_1980_2016.gif?ua=1 https://www.who.int/immunization/monitoring_surveillance/bur...
    - TheAdamAndChe 7y ago
      Nothing in the post stated that immigrants are a major source of MMR, only that stopping cross border transmission is a requirement for effective eradication.
    - cowwithbeef 7y ago
      I can't possibly explain the mechanics of disease eradication without mentioning the movement of infected people. I don't want to get reported for bigotry though so I should simply have not replied on this topic to guarantee my continued use of this site. Unfortunately that means all the discussions here are partial. The ability of hacker news users to educate themselves with discussion is severely limited by the self censorship you impose on us. The fact you completely misunderstood what I said is not surprising as you likely choose to live in a censored world of partial arguments that leave you ignorant, uneducated, and comfortably numb. I would still never report you though.