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>> no access to a consistent, strategically placed network of well-maintained chargers spanning the continent. Isn't that called "Chargepoint"?

by newsoul2019 7y ago

Robotbeat 7y ago
Not in my experience, no. I own two electric cars (a gen 1 Leaf with DC fast charge and a gen 1 Volt).
toomuchtodo 7y ago
The Chargepoint network is woefully inadequate (both locations and charge speed, anything capable of less than 120kw-150kw might as well be a 120V outlet) compared to Tesla's Supercharger network. Electrify America's network is still in its infancy (and you can't charge a Tesla on it yet until CCS adapters are available). I travel cross country in the US frequently on the Supercharger network (Model S), without any range anxiety or fear of getting to an inoperable station late at night with little battery range left. Many hotels also have destination chargers, so I can charge overnight at the hotel while I sleep and leave with a full charge. I could not do this with any other EV.
- tgsovlerkhgsel 7y ago
  > anything capable of less than 120kw-150kw Shouldn't that be enough to charge a mostly empty battery to mostly full over a 30 minute lunch break?
  - toomuchtodo 7y ago
    Indeed it is, but most of the ChargePoint network does not support such charge rates.
m463 7y ago
Here's my experience with various charging networks: - EVGO is excellent. They have L3 (chademo/sae) chargers in lots of locations, and they work. I believe they own the chargers. The chargers seem to be 400v/100a = 40kw. - Chargepoint is very good. They have reliable chargers, just not many L3 chargers. Most of their chargers are L2 (~6kw). I don't think they own chargers, or they own only some of them. But they are reliable and/or have good service. - Blink has always disappointed me - L3 is unreliable and always broken. Some L2 chargers work. plugshare is your friend.
- joshlittle 7y ago
  Add electrify America too. Pricey, but still cheaper than gas. Competition is good though!

>> no access to a consistent, strategically placed network of well-maintained chargers spanning the continent. Isn't that called "Chargepoint"?

Robotbeat 7y ago

Not in my experience, no. I own two electric cars (a gen 1 Leaf with DC fast charge and a gen 1 Volt).

toomuchtodo 7y ago

The Chargepoint network is woefully inadequate (both locations and charge speed, anything capable of less than 120kw-150kw might as well be a 120V outlet) compared to Tesla's Supercharger network. Electrify America's network is still in its infancy (and you can't charge a Tesla on it yet until CCS adapters are available). I travel cross country in the US frequently on the Supercharger network (Model S), without any range anxiety or fear of getting to an inoperable station late at night with little battery range left. Many hotels also have destination chargers, so I can charge overnight at the hotel while I sleep and leave with a full charge. I could not do this with any other EV.

tgsovlerkhgsel 7y ago
> anything capable of less than 120kw-150kw Shouldn't that be enough to charge a mostly empty battery to mostly full over a 30 minute lunch break?
- toomuchtodo 7y ago
  Indeed it is, but most of the ChargePoint network does not support such charge rates.

m463 7y ago

Here's my experience with various charging networks: - EVGO is excellent. They have L3 (chademo/sae) chargers in lots of locations, and they work. I believe they own the chargers. The chargers seem to be 400v/100a = 40kw. - Chargepoint is very good. They have reliable chargers, just not many L3 chargers. Most of their chargers are L2 (~6kw). I don't think they own chargers, or they own only some of them. But they are reliable and/or have good service. - Blink has always disappointed me - L3 is unreliable and always broken. Some L2 chargers work. plugshare is your friend.

joshlittle 7y ago
Add electrify America too. Pricey, but still cheaper than gas. Competition is good though!