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Bolt is getting outdated, and I think for example the Kona EV is more competition. And I don't really see any good reason to get the Bolt.

brianwawok 8y ago
At 10k off, it might be a fine EV grocery getter. Right now a lot of people buy 4-5 year old leafs for like ~10k as EV grocery getters
- madengr 8y ago
  Yep, I bought a 2 year old one with 19k miles for $8,500.
  - bogomipz 8y ago
    Wow, is that a normal price though for a 2 year old Leaf? Was it so cheap simply because they depreciate that much? I imagine much of it would still be under warranty too as well no?
    - brianwawok 8y ago
      They were fairly cheap to begin with. A new battery is like 6k so that’s s big chunk of the price drop. If you can deal with old battery though you are golden.
  - jdhn 8y ago
    Is there a catch to this? I know that Leaf batteries aren't liquid cooled which degrades them a lot quicker than liquid cooled batteries, but still that's an absurdly good deal.
    - ip26 8y ago
      Might just be the fact that they are quickly getting dated, especially the models with less than 100 miles of range new. Like back when you upgraded your computer every 18 months.
    - brianwawok 8y ago
      In 4-5 years tour range is half if rated. Half that in winter. Should get you to the grocery store :)
    - madengr 8y ago
      No catch. A 2015 base model with fast charger option. Bought it in 2017. A ton of these 2015 were coming off 2 year leases in 2017, and I bought it off a guy who re-sells then from auctions. So I wonder what he got it for at auction?
  - davidrm 8y ago
    jesus christ the us market is amazing. (yea yea there are trade offs)
madengr 8y ago
Why would it be outdated? It has 200+ miles range.
- RankingMember 8y ago
  I don't think it's outdated, but it just doesn't have the features (semi-autonomous driving, slick minimalist if controversially-so interior, OTA updates, etc.) you get with a Tesla. It's like comparing an original 2007 Apple iPhone to a 2007 Palm Centro.
  - dmitrygr 8y ago
    Random and uncontrollable shuffling of the software in your car is a FEATURE?
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    - RankingMember 8y ago
      I would definitely consider having your braking/acceleration/navigation/security upgraded without a visit to a service center a feature.
      - dmitrygr 8y ago
        Until a bug disables them, Yes. Raise your hand if you know of someone who writes bug free code.
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        willhk 8y ago
        Yes, nobody writes bug free code and that's why having a car that can't update software OTA is a good thing. Got it. I do enjoy knowing that if a bug crops up I have to schedule an appointment at the dealership and take a day off work to drop it off to be upgraded instead of waking up to a bugfix having been already deployed.

brianwawok 8y ago

At 10k off, it might be a fine EV grocery getter. Right now a lot of people buy 4-5 year old leafs for like ~10k as EV grocery getters

madengr 8y ago
Yep, I bought a 2 year old one with 19k miles for $8,500.
- bogomipz 8y ago
  Wow, is that a normal price though for a 2 year old Leaf? Was it so cheap simply because they depreciate that much? I imagine much of it would still be under warranty too as well no?
  - brianwawok 8y ago
    They were fairly cheap to begin with. A new battery is like 6k so that’s s big chunk of the price drop. If you can deal with old battery though you are golden.
- jdhn 8y ago
  Is there a catch to this? I know that Leaf batteries aren't liquid cooled which degrades them a lot quicker than liquid cooled batteries, but still that's an absurdly good deal.
  - ip26 8y ago
    Might just be the fact that they are quickly getting dated, especially the models with less than 100 miles of range new. Like back when you upgraded your computer every 18 months.
  - brianwawok 8y ago
    In 4-5 years tour range is half if rated. Half that in winter. Should get you to the grocery store :)
  - madengr 8y ago
    No catch. A 2015 base model with fast charger option. Bought it in 2017. A ton of these 2015 were coming off 2 year leases in 2017, and I bought it off a guy who re-sells then from auctions. So I wonder what he got it for at auction?
- davidrm 8y ago
  jesus christ the us market is amazing. (yea yea there are trade offs)

madengr 8y ago

Why would it be outdated? It has 200+ miles range.

RankingMember 8y ago
I don't think it's outdated, but it just doesn't have the features (semi-autonomous driving, slick minimalist if controversially-so interior, OTA updates, etc.) you get with a Tesla. It's like comparing an original 2007 Apple iPhone to a 2007 Palm Centro.
- dmitrygr 8y ago
  Random and uncontrollable shuffling of the software in your car is a FEATURE?
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  - RankingMember 8y ago
    I would definitely consider having your braking/acceleration/navigation/security upgraded without a visit to a service center a feature.
    - dmitrygr 8y ago
      Until a bug disables them, Yes. Raise your hand if you know of someone who writes bug free code.
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      - willhk 8y ago
        Yes, nobody writes bug free code and that's why having a car that can't update software OTA is a good thing. Got it. I do enjoy knowing that if a bug crops up I have to schedule an appointment at the dealership and take a day off work to drop it off to be upgraded instead of waking up to a bugfix having been already deployed.