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Possible, but from the inside as a Microsoft Partner, it feels like most of the world is just starting to move to the cloud, and when they do, they go Azure, be
by thrower123 8y ago
Possible, but from the inside as a Microsoft Partner, it feels like most of the world is just starting to move to the cloud, and when they do, they go Azure, because they are already dependent on Exchange.
- cheeze 8y agoIf you're already locked into msft, then yeah msft makes sense. But one thing people often forget is that AWS is cheaper than everyone else. This matters to most companies. Also, Azure is a pretty miserable dev experience for many of their services. Many of AWS smaller services aren't great, but better from what I've used/general sentiment.
- dragonwriter 8y ago> But one thing people often forget is that AWS is cheaper than everyone else. GCP is, AFAIK, usually cheaper; but AWS is more established, and the “no one ever got fired for being buying...” player of public cloud (which has to chafe MSFT, since they pretty much displaced IBM in that role for on-prem.)
- thrower123 8y agoThe thing there is that almost everyone is already dependent on Office. Breaking that is nearly impossible.
- abrichr 8y ago> AWS is cheaper than everyone else. Can you provide a source for this please? I recently priced out AWS, Azure, and GCP for GPU workloads. I found that AWS and Azure were approximately on par, whereas GCP was significantly cheaper: AWS p3.8xlarge: $12.24/hr [1] Azure NC24 v3: $12.24/hr [2] GCP n1-highmem-32: $8.311/hour [3] [1] https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/instance-types/p3/ https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/instance-types/p3/ [2] https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/pricing/details/virtual-machines/linux/ https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/pricing/details/virtual-ma... [3] https://cloud.google.com/products/calculator/ https://cloud.google.com/products/calculator/
- rtkwe 8y agoThat's just the single box though. What about the storage and managed services?
- eropple 8y agoI agree with you that Azure is a catastrophically miserable dev experience, but it's a mistake to compare price based on list prices. I've worked with companies who are based in India whose Azure cost through a CSP was like 40% of list. I've also had customers get huge, huge discounts offered to them to use Google Cloud. I don't know how low Amazon goes.
- PieUser 8y agohaha look at you two go
- max76 8y agoWhy would someone choose Azure over AWS because they currently use Exchange? An Exchange server can easily be ran inside an EC2 instance inside AWS.
- thrower123 8y agoIt's kind of all linked together. If you use Exchange, the natural evolution to the cloud is moving to Office 365, which then entails a bunch of knock-on effects. Once you are linked in to the Azure ecosystem, it is hard to break out.
- scarface74 8y agoMany IT departments are desperately trying to get away from managing their own Exchange server.
- oneplane 8y agoOdd, I'm seeing more and more people trying to find ways to escape Exchange, and not having it as a driver towards anything. Nobody likes being driven by artificial lock-ins.
- walterbell 8y agoWhat are some viable alternatives? OpenLDAP?
- oneplane 8y agoI don't think OpenLDAP is going to help you with setting up enterprise email services. Perhaps for authentication? Alternatives for Exchange usually go in the direction of outsourcing (which ironically can mean: still Exchange, but not in the ball-and-chain on-prem way). Cloud options exist, but for people who for whatever reason require something to physically exist at a specific location (which is weird for email) commercial offerings are plenty (i.e. Zimbra, Zarafa, IBM's stuff, Red Hat's stuff, Oracle's Stuff).