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Java was a safe bet for enterprise software companies - it had wide vendor support: Sun, IBM, WebLogic, Oracle, Apple. It also had a strong community: Apache,

by Swannie 16y ago

Java was a safe bet for enterprise software companies - it had wide vendor support: Sun, IBM, WebLogic, Oracle, Apple. It also had a strong community: Apache, JBoss, etc. However WebLogic and Sun are now part of Oracle. Apple has backed off on involvement. This leaves Oracle and IBM. IBM are masters of maintaining technology, so we know Java will be maintained. But the ecosystem is being eroded. If the community is being eroded too, Java advocates everywhere will look somewhere else. Just look at the thread here! COBOL was too big to fail too. This will not be acceptable to many forward looking enterprise software companies. Expect to see an increasing number of "app servers" appear for Python et al.

kls 16y ago
Java advocates everywhere will look somewhere else. Just look at the thread here! Right, the writing is already on the wall, because guys like us have already made our mind up that it is on the wall. They have lost the mind-share. Almost every reason for Java's ascension, has been eroded away, the future of Java is exactly what everyone was running from when they found Java. That's why I asked, Oracle's refusal to work with Apache marks the beginning of the end in my mind. It pretty much states openly their plan. The plan that all the "fear mongers" where warning us about. I asked people thought on the Java replacement, because I really would love to know what people see as the successor. For me at least now with the Apache thing decided, it is not a matter of if, it is a matter of "to what".