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None of the things he revealed can be classified as treason. War crimes maybe, treason no way. I also wonder why he never revealed any of Russia's alleged crime

by mavdi 7y ago

None of the things he revealed can be classified as treason. War crimes maybe, treason no way. I also wonder why he never revealed any of Russia's alleged crimes in Ukraine or Syria. Just a thought.

ifdefdebug 7y ago
Did he have access to data about "Russia's alleged crimes in Ukraine or Syria"?
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ivanhoe 7y ago
Sorry, but this is a nonsense. I grew up in a country where people made it a national sport of justifying one side's crimes by arguing that the other sides (Croats/Serbs/Bosniaks/etc) committed the crimes too. That's just stupid. So what if he's concentrated on one side, does it make it a less of a crime? Should he have not publish it, unless he had an equal amount of dirt on Russians on hands in the same time (Syria and Ukraine haven't even happen yet in the moment of these US leaks)? And finally, if it's wrong to concentrate only on one side's wrongdoing, does it mean that all other reporters - who report ONLY on Russians for years now - are guilty the same way?
justinmchase 7y ago
Wikileaks only publishes what is leaked to them. They did publish the `Spy Files Russia` documents in 2017: https://wikileaks.org/spyfiles/russia/ https://wikileaks.org/spyfiles/russia/
nisuni 7y ago
Can we please stop using this talking point about Russia? WikiLeaks publishes what they get (after verifying credibility). They cannot publish what is not leaked to them. Also: they did publish things on Russia.
resters 7y ago
You are overlooking the most significant item. Why was all the information in the war logs classified in the first place? The power to classify information is only legitimately used for very narrow purposes. The war logs show that the US government used that power inappropriately to deliberately deceive the American people about the war efforts. The men and women of the armed forces risk their lives over these wars. The public funds them with taxation. The wars have cost as much as 7 years of a 50% tax cut for everyone earning under $500K. That is such a large number that any social program, any infrastructure challenge is dwarfed by it. The post 9/11 wars are the biggest financial fraud in the history of the world. We found out thanks to Assange that our leaders hid information from us so that they could continue stealing our money to wage a war that was very different from what they claimed it was. We place a great deal of trust in our leaders, and Assange showed that it was not deserved. Still, none of the leaders who did this have been brought to justice.

by mavdi 7y ago

None of the things he revealed can be classified as treason. War crimes maybe, treason no way. I also wonder why he never revealed any of Russia's alleged crimes in Ukraine or Syria. Just a thought.

ifdefdebug 7y ago

Did he have access to data about "Russia's alleged crimes in Ukraine or Syria"?

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ivanhoe 7y ago

Sorry, but this is a nonsense. I grew up in a country where people made it a national sport of justifying one side's crimes by arguing that the other sides (Croats/Serbs/Bosniaks/etc) committed the crimes too. That's just stupid. So what if he's concentrated on one side, does it make it a less of a crime? Should he have not publish it, unless he had an equal amount of dirt on Russians on hands in the same time (Syria and Ukraine haven't even happen yet in the moment of these US leaks)? And finally, if it's wrong to concentrate only on one side's wrongdoing, does it mean that all other reporters - who report ONLY on Russians for years now - are guilty the same way?

justinmchase 7y ago

Wikileaks only publishes what is leaked to them. They did publish the `Spy Files Russia` documents in 2017: https://wikileaks.org/spyfiles/russia/ https://wikileaks.org/spyfiles/russia/

nisuni 7y ago

Can we please stop using this talking point about Russia? WikiLeaks publishes what they get (after verifying credibility). They cannot publish what is not leaked to them. Also: they did publish things on Russia.

resters 7y ago

You are overlooking the most significant item. Why was all the information in the war logs classified in the first place? The power to classify information is only legitimately used for very narrow purposes. The war logs show that the US government used that power inappropriately to deliberately deceive the American people about the war efforts. The men and women of the armed forces risk their lives over these wars. The public funds them with taxation. The wars have cost as much as 7 years of a 50% tax cut for everyone earning under $500K. That is such a large number that any social program, any infrastructure challenge is dwarfed by it. The post 9/11 wars are the biggest financial fraud in the history of the world. We found out thanks to Assange that our leaders hid information from us so that they could continue stealing our money to wage a war that was very different from what they claimed it was. We place a great deal of trust in our leaders, and Assange showed that it was not deserved. Still, none of the leaders who did this have been brought to justice.