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How are fires at a paint shop indicative of abysmal quality control?
by tomnipotent 8y ago
How are fires at a paint shop indicative of abysmal quality control?
- hef19898 8y agoIt is a sign for abysmal factory operations. And the first time pass rate is really bad compared to other OEMs.
- tomnipotent 8y ago> It is a sign for abysmal factory operations. Not really. It's just a sign that their paint shop needs some work. > And the first time pass rate is really bad compared to other OEMs. For a few weeks in June. Great work taking isolated incidents and generalizing across the board.
- golfer 8y agoThe fires aren't just in the paint shop. They are all around the factory property. Inside and outside. Garbage fires on the lot happen about once a year. Regardless, you are trying to say that paint shop fires mean they just need a new paint shop. What I'm saying is that their entire manufacturing operation is amateurish compared to the rest of the auto industry.
- jsight 8y agoI mean, the BMW plant near here has fires about once a year two, if the last couple of years is a baseline. I'm not convinced that you are proving anything.
- gamblor956 8y agoIt wasn't just those few weeks in June. Their first time pass rate, on weekly, monthly, and quarterly basis is really bad compared to other OEMs. A large part of the reason they have a repair parts shortage is because spare parts that would go to existing customers are instead being used to repair newly-built cars before they leave the factory. Tesla's gotten better at managing their first-time pass rates, but they're still close to the bottom compared to their peers.
- tomnipotent 8y ago> really bad compared to other OEM Compared to companies that have been in operation for decades, and in some cases a century? Sure, let's make sure to compare all start-ups to entrenched incumbents.
- golfer 8y agoTesla is not a startup! It's been in business for 18 years.
- Zanni 8y agoDepends on your definition. I think they qualify as a startup because they're still in their hockey-stick growth phase.
- tomnipotent 8y agoIn the context of the auto industry, it absolutely is. Peugeot - 1889 Daimler - 1890 Fiat - 1899 Renault - 1899 Buick - 1903 Ford - 1903 Rolls-Royce - 1904 General Motors - 1908 Alfa Romeo - 1910 Dodge - 1910 Chevrolet - 1911 Aston Martin - 1913 Maserati - 1914 Mitsubishi - 1917 Bentley - 1919 Citroen - 1919 Chrysler - 1925 Mercedes-Benz - 1926 (1883 if you include Benz & Cie.) Nissan - 1934 Jaguar - 1935 Toyota - 1937 Jeep - 1941 Ferrari - 1947 Honda - 1948 Land Rover - 1948 Lotus - 1952 Suzuki - 1956 Subaru - 1958 Mini - 1959 Mazda - 1960 Tesla - 2003
- hef19898 8y agoAnd this is explaining why Tesla ignored more than century worth of automotive mass production knowledge again? Because they are a start-up?
- golfer 8y agoRegardless of our disagreements on Tesla -- this is a great list and really interesting to see all these OEMs, in order. Thanks for this good stuff. Upvoted. I didn't know Peugeot was the oldest of the gang!