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It’s amazing that the state moves so quickly when someone operates against its interests.
by setquk 7y ago
It’s amazing that the state moves so quickly when someone operates against its interests.
- duxup 7y agoThat seems logical that such a thing would happen.
- mtgx 7y agoNot necessarily. Climate change is arguably destroying the U.S. through droughts, hurricanes, floods, etc. But you don't see the U.S. react so swiftly. It's really when the interests of those in power that are affected, that the "state acts so quickly."
- duxup 7y agoFolks will argue how much and when, but the US state is still a democracy and people elected people who oppose action on climate change... it makes sense.
- idlewords 7y agoThe right to a speedy trial is a provision that safeguards individual liberty, not proof of the crushing might of the state.
- eof 7y agoYes, everyone who has had their life saving seized by civil asset forfeiture has had their trials move at an equally speedy pace!
- sandworm101 7y agoThe right to a speedy trial is held by the individual, not the state. It is not a safeguard to liberty if proceedings move so quickly that the individual cannot mount and adequate defense. This is particularly true of extradition, a situation where there is no room to correct an improper decision acted upon.
- threwawasy1228 7y agoLast time I was arrested it took 2 years of going to court once every 2 months, saying that there is no movement on my case before it was straightened out. This all for a very minor offense that I happily plead guilty to after the lawyers had sorted everything out. I could have just as easily plead guilty and paid all my fees on day one if the legal system in the US actually functioned.
- danso 7y agoNot necessarily disagreeing with you, but this doesn't seem to be a compelling example. He's in an extradition hearing for something that happened 9 years ago, and the article says "the extradition process could take years".
- maxlybbert 7y agoThis hearing is the beginning of the process, and unnecessary delay at this point would be unsettling (leaving him wondering whether the other shoe will ever drop). The fact that the very first hearing took place only weeks after Britain got him in custody doesn’t say anything about how quickly other hearings will take place, when a decision will be made, etc. It’s really silly to call for everyone to slow down at this point.