>I think it's way further off than that, like, 10+, and almost certainly not without extra hardware being added to Teslas Doubting like this is a pretty common

>I think it's way further off than that, like, 10+, and almost certainly not without extra hardware being added to Teslas Doubting like this is a pretty common view outside of Tesla, and we've heard it repeated many times here. They clearly disagree. >Full self-driving is 90% edge cases. Adaptive cruise control is not a few incremental steps away from full self-driving This they would completely agree with, as you can see from watching their recent autonomy day presentations. And they have an overwhelming lead in collecting edge case data, so... they're in good shape with that.