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The imitators always catch up to the innovators. Eventually. And everyone downplays the innovation, as if it were just part of some natural evolution of thing

The imitators always catch up to the innovators. Eventually. And everyone downplays the innovation, as if it were just part of some natural evolution of things. But some people know the truth: That it could have easily been another 50 or 100 or 200 years before some OTHER innovator came along to lead the pack along. The story is timeless.

dsfyu404ed 7y ago
You mean like Apple and the iPhone? Or the light-bulb before Edison made them commercially successful? "Imitating" something in a way that is commercially successful to the point where the technology gains widespread adoption when before it had only niche adoption is innovation in itself. Tesla is building the early smartphones. Someone else is going to build the iPhone and yet someone else will build the hordes of HTCs and the Samsungs running Android.
onion2k 7y ago
That it could have easily been another 50 or 100 or 200 years before some OTHER innovator came along to lead the pack along Give the fact that Musk didn't start Tesla I don't really understand this comment. Musk has done a great deal to further electric vehicle adoption, but it's not like it's he's the only person in the industry. It obviously wouldn't have taken another 50 years.
- londons_explore 7y ago
  Especially since Tesla's success is one of the things stemming further EV incentives. If Tesla didn't exist, I bet traditional motor companies would have asked for more and more incentives worldwide to make EV cars. And then they'd have ramped up production and collected all those sweet tax dollars. With Tesla about, nobody lobbies for new EV incentives, because it would be helping the 'outsider', and it's fairly apparant they aren't needed.
- ajross 7y ago
  I read the "innovator" in that post as "Tesla" and not "Musk", FWIW. You don't need to buy in to the ridiculous cult of personality to agree that Tesla cars have absolutely pushed the market in new directions.
rat9988 7y ago
What innovation are we talking about? Did they steal some patent or IP to catch?
LiquidSky 7y ago
>And everyone downplays the innovation, as if it were just part of some natural evolution of things. And everyone plays up the Single Great Genius Who Did Everything Himself (including the men themselves) and how they personally boldly innovated everything. N ever mind the fact that Musk did not start Tesla and is not the person actually designing or implementing its technology. He is the Great and Glorious Musk, so he deserves all of the praise. That story is indeed timeless.
mikestew 7y ago
The imitators always catch up to the innovators. Nissan was making (to quote parent) "boring and reliable" electric cars before Musk showed up. I don't know what you're on about with the rest, it's pretty non-sensical.

dsfyu404ed 7y ago

You mean like Apple and the iPhone? Or the light-bulb before Edison made them commercially successful? "Imitating" something in a way that is commercially successful to the point where the technology gains widespread adoption when before it had only niche adoption is innovation in itself. Tesla is building the early smartphones. Someone else is going to build the iPhone and yet someone else will build the hordes of HTCs and the Samsungs running Android.

onion2k 7y ago

That it could have easily been another 50 or 100 or 200 years before some OTHER innovator came along to lead the pack along Give the fact that Musk didn't start Tesla I don't really understand this comment. Musk has done a great deal to further electric vehicle adoption, but it's not like it's he's the only person in the industry. It obviously wouldn't have taken another 50 years.

londons_explore 7y ago
Especially since Tesla's success is one of the things stemming further EV incentives. If Tesla didn't exist, I bet traditional motor companies would have asked for more and more incentives worldwide to make EV cars. And then they'd have ramped up production and collected all those sweet tax dollars. With Tesla about, nobody lobbies for new EV incentives, because it would be helping the 'outsider', and it's fairly apparant they aren't needed.
ajross 7y ago
I read the "innovator" in that post as "Tesla" and not "Musk", FWIW. You don't need to buy in to the ridiculous cult of personality to agree that Tesla cars have absolutely pushed the market in new directions.

rat9988 7y ago

What innovation are we talking about? Did they steal some patent or IP to catch?

LiquidSky 7y ago

>And everyone downplays the innovation, as if it were just part of some natural evolution of things. And everyone plays up the Single Great Genius Who Did Everything Himself (including the men themselves) and how they personally boldly innovated everything. N ever mind the fact that Musk did not start Tesla and is not the person actually designing or implementing its technology. He is the Great and Glorious Musk, so he deserves all of the praise. That story is indeed timeless.

mikestew 7y ago

The imitators always catch up to the innovators. Nissan was making (to quote parent) "boring and reliable" electric cars before Musk showed up. I don't know what you're on about with the rest, it's pretty non-sensical.