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the one thing truth is no evidence about UFO at least HD quality in 4K era All are SD quality.

JulianMorrison 7y ago
1) Stuff recorded on people's phones is going to have poor resolution, particularly at night when anything but the most cutting edge phone cameras produce a grainy mess. 2) The military is not going to give you full-resolution video, they keep secrets like that reflexively.
- sgt101 7y ago
  If UFO's were "real" (as in actual aliens or other amazing things) then I would have expected a vast increase in footage and photos over the last five years as cameraphones and dash cams became pervasive. This has happened for "fireballs" and meteors - lots of amazing dashcam footage from Siberia and Canada and so on. Why not alien spaceships? Because alien spaceships are not here.
  - JulianMorrison 7y ago
    There are an absolute heap of videos. Mostly of lights at night when phone cameras are weak, or dots high in the sky, but still. Go look on the MUFON site. Meteors have the showmanship advantage of being big, bright, high, and visible from a very large area. Both meteors and UFOs have the problem of "whoa what was that, didn't have time to get my camera out". UFOs additionally have the problem of "too amazed to act".
  - majkinetor 7y ago
    UFOs must be real because there are no single incidents so far in the universe as we know it. Intelligent life happened here, it must happen again somewhere else. This should be made axiom really. You/we/whatever is not unique in the universe. So, "If UFO's were real" is not really a question. Whether this was an UFO or something else is a question. Your other questions "why not spaceships etc" are antrophorphic in nature and not relevant at all.
    - JulianMorrison 7y ago
      Expecting life on other planets can be justified that way. Expecting intelligent life can be weakly justified, it only happened once here and seems to involve a lot of fluke. Expecting UFOs can't rest on that argument alone - you'd need new physics to get from any A to any B at an interstellar level and even more new physics to pull right-angle turns at high mach numbers in an atmosphere.
      - majkinetor 7y ago
        > it only happened once here You don't know that. Maybe there were super intelligent lizards before us. Lets not be ridiculous. We can't even know if it is a current situation because anthropomorphic ideas and agendas (or even timeframe) do not necessarily reflect other life forms - maybe fungi is already connected to other dimensions like in recent star track episodes ? There is also thinking that merging pre-mitochondria with bacteria into more complex cell giving birth to complex multicelular life was singular event on this planet and so must be very rare, but its unpprovable really and even if true just lowers the odds. > you'd need new physics to get from any A to any B at an interstellar level and even more new physics to pull right-angle turns at high mach numbers in an atmosphere. Really ? Aliens having totally different understanding on universe and tech then us sounds amazing ? Just if you had a time machine and get back lousy couple centuries would make us look like aliens.
    - maze-le 7y ago
      >> Intelligent life happened here, it must happen again somewhere else. This should be made axiom really. You/we/whatever is not unique in the universe. We don't really know the probability of abiogenesis (let alone artifacts from that process leading to intelligent life). If it is sufficiently improbable -- 1 / 10^22 per star[0] -- it may very well be that we are the only ones in the observable universe. The universe is pretty darn big, but life is also pretty darn complex, and its emergence from amino acids and "simple" organic chemistry is not very well understood. Unless the factors of abiogenesis are sufficiently well known, we shouldn't make such predictions either... ----- [0]: once per (100 * 10^9 stars in the galaxy times 100 * 10^9 galaxies per hubble volume).

1) Stuff recorded on people's phones is going to have poor resolution, particularly at night when anything but the most cutting edge phone cameras produce a grainy mess. 2) The military is not going to give you full-resolution video, they keep secrets like that reflexively.

sgt101 7y ago
If UFO's were "real" (as in actual aliens or other amazing things) then I would have expected a vast increase in footage and photos over the last five years as cameraphones and dash cams became pervasive. This has happened for "fireballs" and meteors - lots of amazing dashcam footage from Siberia and Canada and so on. Why not alien spaceships? Because alien spaceships are not here.
- JulianMorrison 7y ago
  There are an absolute heap of videos. Mostly of lights at night when phone cameras are weak, or dots high in the sky, but still. Go look on the MUFON site. Meteors have the showmanship advantage of being big, bright, high, and visible from a very large area. Both meteors and UFOs have the problem of "whoa what was that, didn't have time to get my camera out". UFOs additionally have the problem of "too amazed to act".
- majkinetor 7y ago
  UFOs must be real because there are no single incidents so far in the universe as we know it. Intelligent life happened here, it must happen again somewhere else. This should be made axiom really. You/we/whatever is not unique in the universe. So, "If UFO's were real" is not really a question. Whether this was an UFO or something else is a question. Your other questions "why not spaceships etc" are antrophorphic in nature and not relevant at all.
  - JulianMorrison 7y ago
    Expecting life on other planets can be justified that way. Expecting intelligent life can be weakly justified, it only happened once here and seems to involve a lot of fluke. Expecting UFOs can't rest on that argument alone - you'd need new physics to get from any A to any B at an interstellar level and even more new physics to pull right-angle turns at high mach numbers in an atmosphere.
    - majkinetor 7y ago
      > it only happened once here You don't know that. Maybe there were super intelligent lizards before us. Lets not be ridiculous. We can't even know if it is a current situation because anthropomorphic ideas and agendas (or even timeframe) do not necessarily reflect other life forms - maybe fungi is already connected to other dimensions like in recent star track episodes ? There is also thinking that merging pre-mitochondria with bacteria into more complex cell giving birth to complex multicelular life was singular event on this planet and so must be very rare, but its unpprovable really and even if true just lowers the odds. > you'd need new physics to get from any A to any B at an interstellar level and even more new physics to pull right-angle turns at high mach numbers in an atmosphere. Really ? Aliens having totally different understanding on universe and tech then us sounds amazing ? Just if you had a time machine and get back lousy couple centuries would make us look like aliens.
  - maze-le 7y ago
    >> Intelligent life happened here, it must happen again somewhere else. This should be made axiom really. You/we/whatever is not unique in the universe. We don't really know the probability of abiogenesis (let alone artifacts from that process leading to intelligent life). If it is sufficiently improbable -- 1 / 10^22 per star[0] -- it may very well be that we are the only ones in the observable universe. The universe is pretty darn big, but life is also pretty darn complex, and its emergence from amino acids and "simple" organic chemistry is not very well understood. Unless the factors of abiogenesis are sufficiently well known, we shouldn't make such predictions either... ----- [0]: once per (100 * 10^9 stars in the galaxy times 100 * 10^9 galaxies per hubble volume).