> Yeah, the fast bootup times are nice. Every machine I've put SystemD on takes an extra 20 seconds to boot. This includes thinkpads, and other machines. I've

> Yeah, the fast bootup times are nice. Every machine I've put SystemD on takes an extra 20 seconds to boot. This includes thinkpads, and other machines. I've tried a mix of distributions, all of the ones with SystemD take longer. I've even tried altering things to take less time. So I don't see how 'faster boot' can be considered part of systemd's bag of tricks.