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In Canada we have a fairly modern constitution (it's only 40-ish years old, very new, comparably). It starts out with 'freedom conscience, religion and associat
by sonnyblarney 7y ago
In Canada we have a fairly modern constitution (it's only 40-ish years old, very new, comparably). It starts out with 'freedom conscience, religion and association' etc..
This is because historically, the #1 thing by far that authoritarians are concerned with is stomping out the opposition. People 'gathering' to discuss 'political ideas' that challenge the status quo are really why the KGB etc. existed. Most armies in the world exist to suppress their own people (FYI it's why the US Army cannot be 'deployed' on US soil).
In that context, it's a very, very dangerous thing to start blocking people from the financial system for political views.
Yes, we can block Nazis and ISIS. FYI I still don't know why we allow Communists to exist after the reality of the last century, but hey, they don't get many votes so there's that.
But this is pragmatically a very, very slippery slope. The slipperiest of all ropes.
The bar for financial transactions is much higher than for Twitter and FB.
This kind of stuff could blow up into a pop culture war, where every corporation and every teenager with an Instagram account will be calling for banning this or that for whatever reason. It's doubly hard when everyone thinks they are acting for the 'social good'.
Let's actually try to be tolerant here.
- perl4ever 7y ago"In that context, it's a very, very dangerous thing to start blocking people from the financial system for political views." We aren't "starting". Recall all of the countries that have had sanctions placed on them, such as Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, North Korea, Russia, etc.
- sonnyblarney 7y agoThose are nations, not citizens. Nation states don't get constitutional protections. Russia invaded parts of Ukraine, is actively trying to take over the governments in the Baltic states, and is directly interfering in the elections of democracies. What kind of punishment do you think we'd give a person who did that? It would be more than a 'ban' from Mastercard, it would be more like life in prison or possibly execution.
- perl4ever 7y ago"Those are nations, not citizens" All countries are made up of their citizens. I'm reminded of Mitt Romney's statement that corporations are people...