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That’s the point though, right? There is no one “Agile Methodology”. It’s meant to be a communication protocol you grow within your organisation based on the p

That’s the point though, right? There is no one “Agile Methodology”. It’s meant to be a communication protocol you grow within your organisation based on the principals outlined in the manifesto.

sequoia 7y ago
The title of the article “Everyone claims they are following “agile methods” but few actually do” suggests that there is something called “agile methods” that can be followed. I don’t think I understand what you mean about it being a communication protocol. In any event, it seems beyond debate that the term “agile” is extremely widely misunderstood. I’m arguing that instead of tilting at windmills trying to correct everyone who is “understanding it wrong”, we give up, discard the term, and focus the pros and cons of specific, describable practices. Agile seems to be more of a feeling than a practice.
- iovrthoughtthis 7y ago
  There are some codified system of rules and behaviors that people have developed to help their orgs gain agility e.g. Scrum, SAFe, etc. But there are probably an infinite ways to skin that cat. Doesn’t really matter which one you use just that everyone is using the same one. Which leads me onto why it’s a communication protocol. Human systems/processes/procedures just organise the flow of information, often to help people make decisions. If everyone isn’t following the same set of rules and behaviours then there can be a breakdown in communication. Which usually screws things up (whether top down or bottom up)
  - sequoia 7y ago
    So waterfall can be agile as long as everyone is on the same page about it? I'm afraid I'm lost. Incidentally, it turns out I'm a late comer to the "stop saying agile" point–an author of the Agile Manifesto was saying that 5 years ago https://pragdave.me/blog/2014/03/04/time-to-kill-agile.html https://pragdave.me/blog/2014/03/04/time-to-kill-agile.html

sequoia 7y ago

The title of the article “Everyone claims they are following “agile methods” but few actually do” suggests that there is something called “agile methods” that can be followed. I don’t think I understand what you mean about it being a communication protocol. In any event, it seems beyond debate that the term “agile” is extremely widely misunderstood. I’m arguing that instead of tilting at windmills trying to correct everyone who is “understanding it wrong”, we give up, discard the term, and focus the pros and cons of specific, describable practices. Agile seems to be more of a feeling than a practice.

iovrthoughtthis 7y ago
There are some codified system of rules and behaviors that people have developed to help their orgs gain agility e.g. Scrum, SAFe, etc. But there are probably an infinite ways to skin that cat. Doesn’t really matter which one you use just that everyone is using the same one. Which leads me onto why it’s a communication protocol. Human systems/processes/procedures just organise the flow of information, often to help people make decisions. If everyone isn’t following the same set of rules and behaviours then there can be a breakdown in communication. Which usually screws things up (whether top down or bottom up)
- sequoia 7y ago
  So waterfall can be agile as long as everyone is on the same page about it? I'm afraid I'm lost. Incidentally, it turns out I'm a late comer to the "stop saying agile" point–an author of the Agile Manifesto was saying that 5 years ago https://pragdave.me/blog/2014/03/04/time-to-kill-agile.html https://pragdave.me/blog/2014/03/04/time-to-kill-agile.html