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The IRA is a proscribed organization in the UK. It’s illegal. Far right parties are not.

by Veen 8y ago

pjc50 8y ago
Some are: National Action is proscribed.
- DanBC 8y ago
  Yes. Here's a list of the proscribed organisations: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/proscribed-terror-groups-or-organisations--2 https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/proscribed-terror... There are groups that are to be treated as if they are National Action: > Note: The Government laid an Order in September 2017 which provides that “Scottish Dawn”and “NS131 (National Socialist Anti-Capitalist Action)” should be treated as alternativenames for the organisation which is already proscribed as National Action. For people who don't know who national action are, they're linked to the death of one MP and the planning of the murder of other MPs.
- Veen 8y ago
  Yes, some are. But not the ones associated with that jackass Tommy Robinson, who is mentioned in the article. Distasteful as the EDL is, it’s a legal party that takes part in the democratic process.
  - olliej 8y ago
    If your party is based on the concept that some humans are not equal, and should be treated as such, then you aren't justifiably part of the political system. If you want to be part of the political system, a fundamental concept is that everyone should be treated as having equal political power.
    - Veen 8y ago
      This is not precise enough to mean anything. It’s pleasant-sounding emotive nonsense that is true on its face but has nothing to do with the realities of the political situation in the UK. Who thinks humans are not equal? In what way do they think them unequal? What do they want to do about it? Are they white supremacists or are they just anti-immigration? Do they hate Islam or do they want to protect what they see as the established culture of the nation? Are they prepared to work within democratic structures and appeal for votes the same way everyone else or not? These distinctions matter when you’re talking about banning people from political involvement.

The IRA is a proscribed organization in the UK. It’s illegal. Far right parties are not.

by Veen 8y ago

The IRA is a proscribed organization in the UK. It’s illegal. Far right parties are not.

pjc50 8y ago

Some are: National Action is proscribed.

DanBC 8y ago
Yes. Here's a list of the proscribed organisations: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/proscribed-terror-groups-or-organisations--2 https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/proscribed-terror... There are groups that are to be treated as if they are National Action: > Note: The Government laid an Order in September 2017 which provides that “Scottish Dawn”and “NS131 (National Socialist Anti-Capitalist Action)” should be treated as alternativenames for the organisation which is already proscribed as National Action. For people who don't know who national action are, they're linked to the death of one MP and the planning of the murder of other MPs.
Veen 8y ago
Yes, some are. But not the ones associated with that jackass Tommy Robinson, who is mentioned in the article. Distasteful as the EDL is, it’s a legal party that takes part in the democratic process.
- olliej 8y ago
  If your party is based on the concept that some humans are not equal, and should be treated as such, then you aren't justifiably part of the political system. If you want to be part of the political system, a fundamental concept is that everyone should be treated as having equal political power.
  - Veen 8y ago
    This is not precise enough to mean anything. It’s pleasant-sounding emotive nonsense that is true on its face but has nothing to do with the realities of the political situation in the UK. Who thinks humans are not equal? In what way do they think them unequal? What do they want to do about it? Are they white supremacists or are they just anti-immigration? Do they hate Islam or do they want to protect what they see as the established culture of the nation? Are they prepared to work within democratic structures and appeal for votes the same way everyone else or not? These distinctions matter when you’re talking about banning people from political involvement.