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Show HN: IPFS-Deploy – Zero-Config CLI to Deploy Static Websites to IPFS

150 points by agentofuser 7y ago

agentofuser 7y ago
Hi! Author here. This is my first npm package, so I'd love to hear feedback on how I can improve it, what tools I can use for that, etc. Thank you for checking it out :)
- restwell 7y ago
  Is it possible to update a website hosted on IPFS and push those changes to all IPFS users? The equivalent on AWS Cloudfront would be breaking the cache, so all users would see the most recent version. I'm not sure if this would work on IPFS because it seems more like a P2P network and there might be many different (and old) versions of the site at different locations in the system, with no way of controlling who sees what.
  - icebraining 7y ago
    Not an expert, but: IPFS is p2p, but all the content is accessed only by a hash, so the same address always refers to the same version; when you update the site, you're actually creating a new address, leaving the old untouched. Using Cloudflare, you can tie a regular domain to one of these addresses, but that "tie" is only stored there, so when you push a new version, you can update the Cloudflare settings, and everyone connecting to the domain will see the new version "immediately", even if the old version still exists in the p2p network.
    - totony 7y ago
      ipfs has its own mutable content adressing named IPNS
bravura 7y ago
With IPFS what are the costs to keep your site live?
- theamk 7y ago
  It is like torrent, so you need to have a seeder node all the time - it is called “pinning” in IPFS. There is a number of services, the price seems to be around $0.3/(gb*month)
  - gitgud 7y ago
    How does that compare with AWS? Is IPFS worth using for a CDN? (apologies for the acronyms...)
    - neiman 7y ago
      AWS and IPFS are so different that you can't compare then. I'd say that the right comparison of IPFS is to BitTorrent.
      - jononor 7y ago
        If I am supposed to host my website on it, I want to know how much it would cost (for a given service level). Don't really care if the tech is more like butterflies or turtles...
        blotter_paper 7y ago
        IPFS nodes generally cache data that has been accessed recently, so if your website is the most accessed content on IPFS you can host it for free just by sharing it once and users will have relatively quick access to it because nodes directly connected to them will probably have a cached copy already. If requests are rare, expect to host it yourself or pay a pinning service, and expect higher latency as users will be requesting content hosted multiple hops away. You should care whether the tech is butterflies or turtles, because you can't compare butterflies and turtles -- or you can, but the comparison breaks down when you ask which will get to an undefined point x quicker. If x is in the air, butterflies; if x is in the water, turtles.
      - icebraining 7y ago
neiman 7y ago
Great job, simple and easy, as a tool should be. I'm definitely gonna use it.
- agentofuser 7y ago
  Thank you! It makes me very happy to hear that. Feel free to ping me if you run into any trouble (even if it's just a non-showstopper like some unnecessary friction or papercut.) Also keen on hearing what services I should add next. I don't use AWS Route 53 but I think it would be a good option to support for instance.
  - neiman 7y ago
    We're working on a small browser extension for static ipfs websites where this comes in handy. I'll ping to let you know how it goes.
dane-pgp 7y ago
Does it make sense to add support for Signed HTTP Exchanges (SXG) to this? https://github.com/ipfs/in-web-browsers/issues/121 https://github.com/ipfs/in-web-browsers/issues/121
- agentofuser 7y ago
  Good idea! I've been following Web Packaging from a distance, so would need to do some research, but from the looks of it, ipfs-deploy could automate packaging up a directory into an SXG before uploading it to pinners. Gotta figure out how to the signing part though. I'll look into it!
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150 points by agentofuser 7y ago

Hi! Author here. This is my first npm package, so I'd love to hear feedback on how I can improve it, what tools I can use for that, etc. Thank you for checking it out :)

restwell 7y ago
Is it possible to update a website hosted on IPFS and push those changes to all IPFS users? The equivalent on AWS Cloudfront would be breaking the cache, so all users would see the most recent version. I'm not sure if this would work on IPFS because it seems more like a P2P network and there might be many different (and old) versions of the site at different locations in the system, with no way of controlling who sees what.
- icebraining 7y ago
  Not an expert, but: IPFS is p2p, but all the content is accessed only by a hash, so the same address always refers to the same version; when you update the site, you're actually creating a new address, leaving the old untouched. Using Cloudflare, you can tie a regular domain to one of these addresses, but that "tie" is only stored there, so when you push a new version, you can update the Cloudflare settings, and everyone connecting to the domain will see the new version "immediately", even if the old version still exists in the p2p network.
  - totony 7y ago
    ipfs has its own mutable content adressing named IPNS

bravura 7y ago

With IPFS what are the costs to keep your site live?

theamk 7y ago
It is like torrent, so you need to have a seeder node all the time - it is called “pinning” in IPFS. There is a number of services, the price seems to be around $0.3/(gb*month)
- gitgud 7y ago
  How does that compare with AWS? Is IPFS worth using for a CDN? (apologies for the acronyms...)
  - neiman 7y ago
    AWS and IPFS are so different that you can't compare then. I'd say that the right comparison of IPFS is to BitTorrent.
    - jononor 7y ago
      If I am supposed to host my website on it, I want to know how much it would cost (for a given service level). Don't really care if the tech is more like butterflies or turtles...
      - blotter_paper 7y ago
        IPFS nodes generally cache data that has been accessed recently, so if your website is the most accessed content on IPFS you can host it for free just by sharing it once and users will have relatively quick access to it because nodes directly connected to them will probably have a cached copy already. If requests are rare, expect to host it yourself or pay a pinning service, and expect higher latency as users will be requesting content hosted multiple hops away. You should care whether the tech is butterflies or turtles, because you can't compare butterflies and turtles -- or you can, but the comparison breaks down when you ask which will get to an undefined point x quicker. If x is in the air, butterflies; if x is in the water, turtles.
    - icebraining 7y ago

neiman 7y ago

Great job, simple and easy, as a tool should be. I'm definitely gonna use it.

agentofuser 7y ago
Thank you! It makes me very happy to hear that. Feel free to ping me if you run into any trouble (even if it's just a non-showstopper like some unnecessary friction or papercut.) Also keen on hearing what services I should add next. I don't use AWS Route 53 but I think it would be a good option to support for instance.
- neiman 7y ago
  We're working on a small browser extension for static ipfs websites where this comes in handy. I'll ping to let you know how it goes.

dane-pgp 7y ago

Does it make sense to add support for Signed HTTP Exchanges (SXG) to this? https://github.com/ipfs/in-web-browsers/issues/121 https://github.com/ipfs/in-web-browsers/issues/121

agentofuser 7y ago
Good idea! I've been following Web Packaging from a distance, so would need to do some research, but from the looks of it, ipfs-deploy could automate packaging up a directory into an SXG before uploading it to pinners. Gotta figure out how to the signing part though. I'll look into it!

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