> there's no feedback loop to correct the issues. Well, there's supposed to be -- Technical Quality - Refactoring. Common to all flavours of Agile (I lecture

> there's no feedback loop to correct the issues. Well, there's supposed to be -- Technical Quality - Refactoring. Common to all flavours of Agile (I lecture agile techniques) sounds like you guys are missing out important parts of agile... but I totally agree with what you are saying. I'm old Skool and grew up with waterfall. I find it really weird teaching students who don't have a spec or UML diagrams or any idea what a software pattern is. Hell, some of them don't bother with a Model layer - not enough time to implement it in a sprint, so why bother? Lol. They get code out the door, but quality code? A-hem, it is possible, but do people do it?