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by tmcw 16y ago

Alex3917 16y ago
Is there something in particular that you weren't able to find via Google or Wikipedia?
- mattdeboard 16y ago
  Is there some reason you expect anyone to try to prove or disprove your bald assertions? This type of reasoning is called argumentum ad ignorantiam, or argument from ignorance. When you boldly assert 'x', then provide no proof, then subsequently expect others to disprove your assertion, you expose the weakness of your own argument. It is not our responsibility to prove or disprove your assertions. If you have enlightening information to share with the class which you can cite, then please, by all means do. Otherwise, get thee gone.
  - Alex3917 16y ago
    That makes no sense. I'm not trying to assert or prove anything. It would be wildly irresponsible for anyone to take any drug without doing their own research into its safety and efficacy; I'm just listing some of the benefits that scientists have found, and people can do their own research if they are interested in learning more.
    - blueben 16y ago
      Benefits as shown by whom? If readers are still expected to do their own research, then what purpose does this grossly oversimplified list serve?
      - Alex3917 16y ago
        It benefits people by letting them know what to look into. E.g. if you have an inflammatory condition like arthritis, and you read my comment that says marijuana is an anti-inflammatory, then you realize that if this is true then maybe marijuana would help. So then you go and do a Google or PubMed search for Marijuana + Arthritis, or Marijuana + Anti-inflammatory, in order to find the relevant scholarly research.
  - tygorius 16y ago
    Hmm, no. [http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/ignorance.html http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/ignorance.html] Had he argued that his points were valid simply because they hadn't been disproven, then it would have been an argument from ignorance. Just because someone makes an assertion without attaching footnotes does not make it a fallacy.
    - mattdeboard 16y ago
      I stand corrected. In my defense, however, in a reply to another poster he seemed to imply that because someone hadn't researched his point, his points weren't untrue.
gjm11 16y ago
Actually, I'm pretty sure what it's missing is (1) a sarcasm marker or (2) anything that's actually funny about the sarcasm. I'm guessing that the underlying point, in so far as there is one, is something like "boo, the OP is just promoting drugs; might as well be pushing marijuana".

This post is missing: citations.

by tmcw 16y ago

This post is missing: citations.

Alex3917 16y ago

Is there something in particular that you weren't able to find via Google or Wikipedia?

mattdeboard 16y ago
Is there some reason you expect anyone to try to prove or disprove your bald assertions? This type of reasoning is called argumentum ad ignorantiam, or argument from ignorance. When you boldly assert 'x', then provide no proof, then subsequently expect others to disprove your assertion, you expose the weakness of your own argument. It is not our responsibility to prove or disprove your assertions. If you have enlightening information to share with the class which you can cite, then please, by all means do. Otherwise, get thee gone.
- Alex3917 16y ago
  That makes no sense. I'm not trying to assert or prove anything. It would be wildly irresponsible for anyone to take any drug without doing their own research into its safety and efficacy; I'm just listing some of the benefits that scientists have found, and people can do their own research if they are interested in learning more.
  - blueben 16y ago
    Benefits as shown by whom? If readers are still expected to do their own research, then what purpose does this grossly oversimplified list serve?
    - Alex3917 16y ago
      It benefits people by letting them know what to look into. E.g. if you have an inflammatory condition like arthritis, and you read my comment that says marijuana is an anti-inflammatory, then you realize that if this is true then maybe marijuana would help. So then you go and do a Google or PubMed search for Marijuana + Arthritis, or Marijuana + Anti-inflammatory, in order to find the relevant scholarly research.
- tygorius 16y ago
  Hmm, no. [http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/ignorance.html http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/ignorance.html] Had he argued that his points were valid simply because they hadn't been disproven, then it would have been an argument from ignorance. Just because someone makes an assertion without attaching footnotes does not make it a fallacy.
  - mattdeboard 16y ago
    I stand corrected. In my defense, however, in a reply to another poster he seemed to imply that because someone hadn't researched his point, his points weren't untrue.

gjm11 16y ago

Actually, I'm pretty sure what it's missing is (1) a sarcasm marker or (2) anything that's actually funny about the sarcasm. I'm guessing that the underlying point, in so far as there is one, is something like "boo, the OP is just promoting drugs; might as well be pushing marijuana".