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Is there a good catchy name for this "oops" stuff? It's very interesting, an interesting modern take on "embrace and extend" or "FUD".

reaperducer 7y ago
I'm not sure what the term for the tech world is, but something similar seems to exist in many areas of many fields. It's one of the reasons I stopped accepting lawyers and law firms as clients. Every other client would pay on time. Those in the law field would consistently slow-pay, I believe because they knew they wouldn't get sued over it. "That overdue invoice? Oh, we never received it. Send it again." "Oh, Jenna in accounting must have it, but she's on vacation for two weeks." "Oh, that's in process." "Oh, we still haven't received it." "Oh, you have a signature on a certified mail delivery? It must be upstairs for approval." "Oh, we've already run all the checks for the month, it'll be in next month's batch." I eventually went to a pre-paid hours, payable by credit card-only model. It was the only way to stay afloat. Plus it was delicious when someone would use up all their hours and give give some excuse. "Oh, we really need this on the site today." "No problem. I can do that as soon as you buy more hours." "Oh, we'll get that paid next week." "No problem, your website went offline an hour ago and will be back when you buy more hours next week." Poof! payment comes through three minutes later.
- sverige 7y ago
  As a class, lawyers and doctors are some of the cheapest people you'll ever meet. They don't want to pay full price for anything. I have tons of stories about this; one of the most egregious was a lawyer who made over a million a year and sued his mechanic to avoid paying an $800 repair job to his daughter's old VW Bug.
  - HeWhoLurksLate 7y ago
    That's a nice anecdote. Here's mine- my orthodontist gives out a little wooden token for not breaking anything, wearing one of their t-shirts to the appointment, and answering a trivia question right. You can either return 30 tokens for a $10 gift card (great for teenagers, who always need more Amazon money, it seems), or he has this nice big box that you can put tokens in. Once the box is full, he plans a trip and goes to some third-world country to help out for a bit (generally it's his summer vacation.) He has gone on a trip for the last eight or nine years. Maybe my population is skewed- two of the three doctors I see are Eagle Scouts, but not everyone is a cheapskate.
    - glenneroo 7y ago
      That anecdote actually sounds like you're supporting GP's cheapskate doctor hypothesis... Wow only _30_ visits to the doctor and you get a $10 gift card? I have never been to an orthodontist but how often does one typically go? 30 times a year? Are those visits free? On top of that, you have do free advertising (t-shirt) for him, plus having some useless trivia knowledge... I hope the questions are simple enough for people to always get right? This would just be pure frustration for me, I have learned over the years to literally dread trivia "opportunities". And the best part... you can otherwise donate your paltry gift card to help him pay to go on vacation, albeit helping people, but you said vacation, therefore I'm guessing he works a couple days.
      - HeWhoLurksLate 7y ago
        The cost of the braces & treatment was competitively priced, too. It's almost always the parents who pay for it- the gift cards go to the teenagers and make them financially invested in being good to their faces. Are those visits free? The cost of visits is included in the overall price, as are replacement brackets / etc. for the first few. The advisement / planning process part is free, and they weren't pushy at all- my parents asked if my then-8-year-old sibling (he has overjet) needed braces, too, and they recommended waiting until all the baby teeth came out. [ For comparison, other companies / doctors I've heard of recommend them to young kids frequently, even though the teething process causes structural changes to the jaw and generally makes another round of braces a necessity]. On top of that, you have do free advertising (t-shirt) for him, The T-Shirts are really nice, TBH. The company name / logo was on the back, with a simple message on the front, and they were made of soft, puffy synthetic stuff. I liked wearing them- and wearing them was optional- there were a few times when I changed into the shirt in the bathroom five minutes before the appointment and took it off five minutes after- they're pretty lax about it. plus having some useless trivia knowledge... The trivia questions were pretty easy- "what is the outer layer of your teeth called?", "what is the capital of $state?" etc. It's not that big of a deal. something something vacation He pays for most of it, and it's a lot of work, in a third-world country. Not much by way of resorts there, though there are days off & hikes.
sergiotapia 7y ago
I call it Last Jedi'ing. GOTCHA https://youtu.be/5ECwhB21Pnk?t=323 https://youtu.be/5ECwhB21Pnk?t=323
- prolepunk 7y ago
  Why do you even bring this up? What you linked isn't funny. The video is titled -- 'Why Star Wars: The Last Jedi is a Complete Cinematic Failure'. I believe I know where this is all going. Putting aside all the anti-feminist crap that I'm sure I'm going to find if keep watching this video, what I'm seeing is a very angry dude screaming 'Gotcha' while old-timey piano music is playing in the background and some starwars clips are shown. Everything about this is really annoying.
  - sergiotapia 7y ago
    Damn you truly had a visceral reaction to this. Calm down lmao
skybrian 7y ago
Sadly, no amount of testing can help protect against unexpected changes in browser versions that don't exist yet. The best you can do is test the nightly or beta track all the time (if they have one). But that may have false positives due to bugs on their end. And once you notice the bug, you still have to fix it. This isn't something to drop everything for like a security bug, so it may have to wait on other things. Meanwhile, people outside the company will assume it's intentional sabotage, because that's how the Internet thinks these days.
stevenjohns 7y ago
I'll take "oopsie." Google did an "oopsie" and blocked Firefox users from using Gmail Sounds great.
shpx 7y ago
I call it "Hanlon's razor" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor
- rocqua 7y ago
  What about hanlon's stubble? I.e. something which Hanlon's razor should remove, but actually still exists.
niij 7y ago
Sabotage.
c0vfefe 7y ago
Yeah, "stalling."

reaperducer 7y ago

I'm not sure what the term for the tech world is, but something similar seems to exist in many areas of many fields. It's one of the reasons I stopped accepting lawyers and law firms as clients. Every other client would pay on time. Those in the law field would consistently slow-pay, I believe because they knew they wouldn't get sued over it. "That overdue invoice? Oh, we never received it. Send it again." "Oh, Jenna in accounting must have it, but she's on vacation for two weeks." "Oh, that's in process." "Oh, we still haven't received it." "Oh, you have a signature on a certified mail delivery? It must be upstairs for approval." "Oh, we've already run all the checks for the month, it'll be in next month's batch." I eventually went to a pre-paid hours, payable by credit card-only model. It was the only way to stay afloat. Plus it was delicious when someone would use up all their hours and give give some excuse. "Oh, we really need this on the site today." "No problem. I can do that as soon as you buy more hours." "Oh, we'll get that paid next week." "No problem, your website went offline an hour ago and will be back when you buy more hours next week." Poof! payment comes through three minutes later.

sverige 7y ago
As a class, lawyers and doctors are some of the cheapest people you'll ever meet. They don't want to pay full price for anything. I have tons of stories about this; one of the most egregious was a lawyer who made over a million a year and sued his mechanic to avoid paying an $800 repair job to his daughter's old VW Bug.
- HeWhoLurksLate 7y ago
  That's a nice anecdote. Here's mine- my orthodontist gives out a little wooden token for not breaking anything, wearing one of their t-shirts to the appointment, and answering a trivia question right. You can either return 30 tokens for a $10 gift card (great for teenagers, who always need more Amazon money, it seems), or he has this nice big box that you can put tokens in. Once the box is full, he plans a trip and goes to some third-world country to help out for a bit (generally it's his summer vacation.) He has gone on a trip for the last eight or nine years. Maybe my population is skewed- two of the three doctors I see are Eagle Scouts, but not everyone is a cheapskate.
  - glenneroo 7y ago
    That anecdote actually sounds like you're supporting GP's cheapskate doctor hypothesis... Wow only _30_ visits to the doctor and you get a $10 gift card? I have never been to an orthodontist but how often does one typically go? 30 times a year? Are those visits free? On top of that, you have do free advertising (t-shirt) for him, plus having some useless trivia knowledge... I hope the questions are simple enough for people to always get right? This would just be pure frustration for me, I have learned over the years to literally dread trivia "opportunities". And the best part... you can otherwise donate your paltry gift card to help him pay to go on vacation, albeit helping people, but you said vacation, therefore I'm guessing he works a couple days.
    - HeWhoLurksLate 7y ago
      The cost of the braces & treatment was competitively priced, too. It's almost always the parents who pay for it- the gift cards go to the teenagers and make them financially invested in being good to their faces. Are those visits free? The cost of visits is included in the overall price, as are replacement brackets / etc. for the first few. The advisement / planning process part is free, and they weren't pushy at all- my parents asked if my then-8-year-old sibling (he has overjet) needed braces, too, and they recommended waiting until all the baby teeth came out. [ For comparison, other companies / doctors I've heard of recommend them to young kids frequently, even though the teething process causes structural changes to the jaw and generally makes another round of braces a necessity]. On top of that, you have do free advertising (t-shirt) for him, The T-Shirts are really nice, TBH. The company name / logo was on the back, with a simple message on the front, and they were made of soft, puffy synthetic stuff. I liked wearing them- and wearing them was optional- there were a few times when I changed into the shirt in the bathroom five minutes before the appointment and took it off five minutes after- they're pretty lax about it. plus having some useless trivia knowledge... The trivia questions were pretty easy- "what is the outer layer of your teeth called?", "what is the capital of $state?" etc. It's not that big of a deal. something something vacation He pays for most of it, and it's a lot of work, in a third-world country. Not much by way of resorts there, though there are days off & hikes.

sergiotapia 7y ago

I call it Last Jedi'ing. GOTCHA https://youtu.be/5ECwhB21Pnk?t=323 https://youtu.be/5ECwhB21Pnk?t=323

prolepunk 7y ago
Why do you even bring this up? What you linked isn't funny. The video is titled -- 'Why Star Wars: The Last Jedi is a Complete Cinematic Failure'. I believe I know where this is all going. Putting aside all the anti-feminist crap that I'm sure I'm going to find if keep watching this video, what I'm seeing is a very angry dude screaming 'Gotcha' while old-timey piano music is playing in the background and some starwars clips are shown. Everything about this is really annoying.
- sergiotapia 7y ago
  Damn you truly had a visceral reaction to this. Calm down lmao

skybrian 7y ago

Sadly, no amount of testing can help protect against unexpected changes in browser versions that don't exist yet. The best you can do is test the nightly or beta track all the time (if they have one). But that may have false positives due to bugs on their end. And once you notice the bug, you still have to fix it. This isn't something to drop everything for like a security bug, so it may have to wait on other things. Meanwhile, people outside the company will assume it's intentional sabotage, because that's how the Internet thinks these days.

stevenjohns 7y ago

I'll take "oopsie." Google did an "oopsie" and blocked Firefox users from using Gmail Sounds great.

shpx 7y ago

I call it "Hanlon's razor" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor

rocqua 7y ago
What about hanlon's stubble? I.e. something which Hanlon's razor should remove, but actually still exists.

niij 7y ago

Sabotage.

c0vfefe 7y ago

Yeah, "stalling."