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It's not real, it's not going to happen, and setting up even a human rideshare service is going to take longer than 12 months

toomuchtodo 7y ago
I have already delegated access to my Model S to other Tesla account holders through customer service (manual process). Seems to automate it is straightforward? Tesla could replace Turo for Teslas fairly rapidly IMHO (and possibly Zipcar!). Supporting Lyft/Uber functionality would of course be more effort, but also doable. This isn't trying to go to the Mars (insert chuckle here). Even if you discount full autonomy, Tesla could collect a skim from every one of these transactions, while also collecting autopilot data from each trip. Here's an open source rideshare platform: https://libretaxi.org/ https://libretaxi.org/ TLDR Lots of dollars to capture besides for handing manufactured units over to customers. It's so silly people value Uber and Lyft as platforms so highly (as just mobile apps) while they have so little capability compared to Tesla, who not only has similar software engineering capabilities, but actually builds the cars and restricts their ability to join other platforms as deeply integrated components.
- notfromhere 7y ago
  So Tesla is going to enter an industry that actively loses money based on an autonomy play that doesn't exist and isn't even legal on most U.S. roads?
  - hef19898 7y ago
    Exactly what you would do to solve your cash flow and profit issues, isn't it?
  - toomuchtodo 7y ago
    Do you lose money if someone else owns the cars and you're just facilitating transactions with software you own and infrastructure you must operate regardless to provide service to your vehicle owners?
    - notfromhere 7y ago
      It's not free, and given how Uber/Lyft/etc have made exactly zero profits despite tens of billions of dollars in capital, not a line of business you want a struggling manufacturing company hemorrhaging cash to pursue. It's delusional stupidity, and no one should actually take Musk seriously.
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toomuchtodo 7y ago

I have already delegated access to my Model S to other Tesla account holders through customer service (manual process). Seems to automate it is straightforward? Tesla could replace Turo for Teslas fairly rapidly IMHO (and possibly Zipcar!). Supporting Lyft/Uber functionality would of course be more effort, but also doable. This isn't trying to go to the Mars (insert chuckle here). Even if you discount full autonomy, Tesla could collect a skim from every one of these transactions, while also collecting autopilot data from each trip. Here's an open source rideshare platform: https://libretaxi.org/ https://libretaxi.org/ TLDR Lots of dollars to capture besides for handing manufactured units over to customers. It's so silly people value Uber and Lyft as platforms so highly (as just mobile apps) while they have so little capability compared to Tesla, who not only has similar software engineering capabilities, but actually builds the cars and restricts their ability to join other platforms as deeply integrated components.

notfromhere 7y ago
So Tesla is going to enter an industry that actively loses money based on an autonomy play that doesn't exist and isn't even legal on most U.S. roads?
- hef19898 7y ago
  Exactly what you would do to solve your cash flow and profit issues, isn't it?
- toomuchtodo 7y ago
  Do you lose money if someone else owns the cars and you're just facilitating transactions with software you own and infrastructure you must operate regardless to provide service to your vehicle owners?
  - notfromhere 7y ago
    It's not free, and given how Uber/Lyft/etc have made exactly zero profits despite tens of billions of dollars in capital, not a line of business you want a struggling manufacturing company hemorrhaging cash to pursue. It's delusional stupidity, and no one should actually take Musk seriously.
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