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Here's what I don't want: I don't want ethics exams and accreditation requirements to constrain software development to people with traditional software backgr
by cbhl 7y ago
Here's what I don't want:
I don't want ethics exams and accreditation requirements to constrain software development to people with traditional software backgrounds. The cost of a traditional college education in the United States is easily five or six figures, and socioeconomic forces means that black people face systemic barriers to getting access to that education (versus whites, indians, asians, etc.). I want there to be more YCs, more Startup Schools, more Lambda Schools, and I want them open to immigrants and non-US-citizens, too.
I also don't want ethics exams to constrain supply. A lot of software withers on the vine because there's no "business case" for it, but if there was a way to divorce the need to put dinner on the table from how much people (or advertisers, or...) are willing to pay for software, then there's a lot of software that is yet to be written that could make the world better (say, enabling the creation of more art and music, or something).
- redbluegreen 7y agoThe same could be said for doctors and lawyers though, and I don't think we complain too much about having less unethical doctors.
- mieseratte 7y ago> and socioeconomic forces means that black people face systemic barriers to getting access to that education (versus whites, indians, asians, etc.) This is false. Poor, rural whites can and do face the exact same sets of challenges as those from an impoverished black backgrounds, perhaps with the exception of naming but even then I saw a headline last week with a girl named, no joke, Crystal Methany.
- shawnz 7y agoThe parent never said that there are no white people who face socioeconomic challenges. But whiteness itself does not create any socioeconomic disadvantage.
- mieseratte 7y agoHere is what the parent wrote: > and socioeconomic forces means that black people face systemic barriers to getting access to that education (versus whites, indians, asians, etc.) My contention is that the exact same socioeconomic forces exist across racial lines. There may be historical factors that vary by racial group, or sub-groups therein, but the problems are universal.
- shawnz 7y agoIf I claim apples are red, that doesn't imply that apples are the only thing that is red. It's just a good example of a red thing.
- mieseratte 7y agoThe parent quite literally wrote > (versus whites, indians, asians, etc.) This is saying those problems don't exist for another group. You are either poorly trolling or unable to read.
- shawnz 7y agoNo, what they are saying is that those groups don't face inherent socioeconomic challenges simply due to being a part of that group, in the same way that for example black and Hispanic people do. That doesn't mean nobody else can face socioeconomic challenges.
- mieseratte 7y agoWhat socioeconomic challenge, in this day and age, applies to American blacks but not American asians, whites, or any other group who are applying to university?
- shawnz 7y agoAre you serious? What about the fact that American black and Hispanic families are disproportionately living in ghettos due to the barriers that have been purposefully imposed on them over the last century?