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I suspect that the USA isn't keen to make him a martyr, and that key players recognize the minimal value in prosecuting him now. It will be interesting to see h

I suspect that the USA isn't keen to make him a martyr, and that key players recognize the minimal value in prosecuting him now. It will be interesting to see how they utilize this nearly year-long reprieve from Assange's political posturing.

duxup 8y ago
I'm not sure many folks would think of him as a martyr. A lot of the previous good will about leaking important documents seems to have been washed away by Wikileak's crafting things to form their own narratives.
- dleslie 8y ago
  It's not necessary for him to be a popular martyr for him to be an effective martyr. There are many people who continue to hold him in high esteem, despite claims about his organization's ulterior motives.
- goodfight 8y ago
  Name one unbiased news source. We are in the age of information wars.
  - duxup 8y ago
    Crafting things to form their own narratives isn't bias, it is a choice.
    - SlowRobotAhead 8y ago
      Name one thing Wikileaks has posted that isn’t true, please, for citation on your claim.
      - duxup 8y ago
        Their own tweets about what they're going to release and their actual actions, their own characterization of the information, their choices not to release some information. I also really don't think it is a difficult concept to understand that when choosing what to release and what you don't release you can greatly influence what is "true". Let's say I was a military organization and I released some information that I killed 12 terrorists.... but I didn't say that I killed 200 civilians doing so. I could use your same argument "point out something I said that wasn't true"... but obviously I wasn't telling the whole story.
- cyphar 8y ago
  Having a bias and "crafting things to form their own narratives" are two very different things. Yes, Assange has an anti-HRC bias because of his beliefs (rightly or wrongly) of how she would act as president. Unfortunately, all reporting is biased. I would love it if WikiLeaks was a completely-unbiased news source but such a thing really doesn't exist. Publishing the Iraqi/Afghan war logs was an example of having an anti-war bias. But all of the leaks were factual, no "crafting" to form a narrative involved. The DNC did undermine Bernie Sanders, she did say she had "private and public positions", and a whole host of other things. Just because they didn't publish what the RNC was doing doesn't make the leaks any less true or important.
DanBC 8y ago
He'll be oput in 6 months if he isn't an idiot. https://www.gov.uk/types-of-prison-sentence/determinate-prison-sentences-fixed-length-of-time https://www.gov.uk/types-of-prison-sentence/determinate-pris...
- Tomte 8y ago
  And since his cat won't be with him, he might even manage to do that.

duxup 8y ago

I'm not sure many folks would think of him as a martyr. A lot of the previous good will about leaking important documents seems to have been washed away by Wikileak's crafting things to form their own narratives.

dleslie 8y ago
It's not necessary for him to be a popular martyr for him to be an effective martyr. There are many people who continue to hold him in high esteem, despite claims about his organization's ulterior motives.
goodfight 8y ago
Name one unbiased news source. We are in the age of information wars.
- duxup 8y ago
  Crafting things to form their own narratives isn't bias, it is a choice.
  - SlowRobotAhead 8y ago
    Name one thing Wikileaks has posted that isn’t true, please, for citation on your claim.
    - duxup 8y ago
      Their own tweets about what they're going to release and their actual actions, their own characterization of the information, their choices not to release some information. I also really don't think it is a difficult concept to understand that when choosing what to release and what you don't release you can greatly influence what is "true". Let's say I was a military organization and I released some information that I killed 12 terrorists.... but I didn't say that I killed 200 civilians doing so. I could use your same argument "point out something I said that wasn't true"... but obviously I wasn't telling the whole story.
cyphar 8y ago
Having a bias and "crafting things to form their own narratives" are two very different things. Yes, Assange has an anti-HRC bias because of his beliefs (rightly or wrongly) of how she would act as president. Unfortunately, all reporting is biased. I would love it if WikiLeaks was a completely-unbiased news source but such a thing really doesn't exist. Publishing the Iraqi/Afghan war logs was an example of having an anti-war bias. But all of the leaks were factual, no "crafting" to form a narrative involved. The DNC did undermine Bernie Sanders, she did say she had "private and public positions", and a whole host of other things. Just because they didn't publish what the RNC was doing doesn't make the leaks any less true or important.

DanBC 8y ago

He'll be oput in 6 months if he isn't an idiot. https://www.gov.uk/types-of-prison-sentence/determinate-prison-sentences-fixed-length-of-time https://www.gov.uk/types-of-prison-sentence/determinate-pris...

Tomte 8y ago
And since his cat won't be with him, he might even manage to do that.