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You are making the claim so you need to show the evidence (especially since it contradicts accepted scientific consensus). Don't be lazy and force other people

You are making the claim so you need to show the evidence (especially since it contradicts accepted scientific consensus). Don't be lazy and force other people to do your work for you as you won't have a chance in hell of convincing anyone that way. What you've linked so far shows that the sea ice level of the past 5 years is well below even 2 standard deviations under the average, which contradicts your claim. Not sure what you were trying to prove by posting that link.

baruchthescribe 7y ago
I remember when it was accepted scientific consensus that plate tectonics was a crock of shit. Didn't make it any less true. If the data shows that the Arctic is doing fine, then I don't care how many climate alarmists say it's melting if it isn't. Tony Heller destroys the fundamental deception of global warming here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RwjYkYCXnU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RwjYkYCXnU
- petersellers 7y ago
  >I remember when it was accepted scientific consensus that plate tectonics was a crock of shit. Didn't make it any less true. No one is saying science is infallible. It's just the best explanation for what we're seeing so far, based on empirical evidence. Your argument that science was wrong about something in the past does absolutely nothing to support any of your claims - for that you need to post evidence. >If the data shows that the Arctic is doing fine, then I don't care how many climate alarmists say it's melting if it isn't. Your own link you posted contradicts this. I'm starting to think that you don't understand the contents of your own link, because it very clearly contradicts what you are trying to say. >Tony Heller destroys the fundamental deception of global warming here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RwjYkYCXnU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RwjYkYCXnU This is a typical tactic used by climate change deniers. Ask for evidence - when they can't provide any, they distract and post something completely different and try to deflect. I'll spend 10 minutes of my time watching that video after you spend a little effort and post a scientific paper that supports your original claim.
  - baruchthescribe 7y ago
    Here: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/236534420_Projecting_the_Climatic_Effects_of_Increasing_Carbon_Dioxide https://www.researchgate.net/publication/236534420_Projectin... Arctic sea ice is normal and cyclical and follows both short and long term cycles.
    - petersellers 7y ago
      "sea ice extent" shows up 3 times in that 400 page paper, and those phrases where it's mentioned don't support anything related to your initial claim.

baruchthescribe 7y ago

I remember when it was accepted scientific consensus that plate tectonics was a crock of shit. Didn't make it any less true. If the data shows that the Arctic is doing fine, then I don't care how many climate alarmists say it's melting if it isn't. Tony Heller destroys the fundamental deception of global warming here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RwjYkYCXnU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RwjYkYCXnU

petersellers 7y ago
>I remember when it was accepted scientific consensus that plate tectonics was a crock of shit. Didn't make it any less true. No one is saying science is infallible. It's just the best explanation for what we're seeing so far, based on empirical evidence. Your argument that science was wrong about something in the past does absolutely nothing to support any of your claims - for that you need to post evidence. >If the data shows that the Arctic is doing fine, then I don't care how many climate alarmists say it's melting if it isn't. Your own link you posted contradicts this. I'm starting to think that you don't understand the contents of your own link, because it very clearly contradicts what you are trying to say. >Tony Heller destroys the fundamental deception of global warming here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RwjYkYCXnU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RwjYkYCXnU This is a typical tactic used by climate change deniers. Ask for evidence - when they can't provide any, they distract and post something completely different and try to deflect. I'll spend 10 minutes of my time watching that video after you spend a little effort and post a scientific paper that supports your original claim.
- baruchthescribe 7y ago
  Here: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/236534420_Projecting_the_Climatic_Effects_of_Increasing_Carbon_Dioxide https://www.researchgate.net/publication/236534420_Projectin... Arctic sea ice is normal and cyclical and follows both short and long term cycles.
  - petersellers 7y ago
    "sea ice extent" shows up 3 times in that 400 page paper, and those phrases where it's mentioned don't support anything related to your initial claim.