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Why is it disingenuous? I got a job because I want money to live and do other stuff, they got one because they want to move up. You seem to be suggesting one m
by icebraining 8y ago
Why is it disingenuous? I got a job because I want money to live and do other stuff, they got one because they want to move up. You seem to be suggesting one must treat the job as a life goal in itself, but why? Outside of some cult-like startups, nobody imagines you're spending your time there because you'd rather be there than anywhere else. There's no deception going on.
- therobot24 8y agoIt suggests that you find low hanging fruit, don't do anything that will make waves, and only really think about the short term. That doesn't sound like you're operating in good faith.
- icebraining 8y agoYou're confusing a career with the work. I've taken consultancy jobs where I was only supposed to spend a month there, preparing the foundations for future projects by internal developers. It wasn't a long-term plan for my career, yet I did think long-term for the project and the company. They're two different things. Regarding the low-hanging fruit, this again may involve the choice of job (career decision), rather than the choices you make in the job. Nevertheless, I'd suggest looking for neglected problems may actually be beneficial in the job as well, for the employer - too often employees are jostling to participate in the high-visibility projects, rather than what can make a real difference in the bottom-line. As for not making waves, that's simply not there. They're talking about "irreversible reputational harm" like committing crimes and doing drugs. No job should require you to do irreversible reputational harm to yourself.