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We can always vote and legislate for something better. From my experience in the US, police vary from decent people just trying to serve society, to up-armored

We can always vote and legislate for something better. From my experience in the US, police vary from decent people just trying to serve society, to up-armored mall cops on power trips. If you give them assault rifles, tanks, and unlimited surveillance, you encourage the worst among them. A guy wearing a uniform and trained in de-escalation instead of "verbal control" could do some good.

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TheSpiceIsLife 7y ago
> We can always vote and legislate for something better. How? Which political party or independents promote a policy to reduce police powers? And even if there were, or are, any politicians with such a policy we ought to be more suspicious of them!
- johnisgood 7y ago
  Yeah, it is not going to happen through such ways. No way. Whoever would want to do it would be getting pressure from influential people on multiple fronts. Let us play with the thought though. Who would go through such risks? What would they gain from it?
- philpem 7y ago
  The trick is to spin it better. It's not "reducing police power", it's "even better training, tools and techniques for our hard-working police officers".
- username223 7y ago
  > How? Which political party or independents promote a policy to reduce police powers? Policing is mostly local, so I think this is an area where there's a real chance to make things better. National politics are hopelessly tribal in the US, but city/county level politics are much less so. Go to city council meetings. Pay attention, and complain if they try to buy leftover military hardware like a BearCat[1]. Vote for and talk to your councillors. Organize a petition to de-militarize your local police force. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenco_BearCat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenco_BearCat
justaguyhere 7y ago
We can always vote and legislate for something better Aren't you assuming that people want something better? I don't know if that is true. Many people refuse to believe cops can be bad (due to ignorance or whatever other reasons)

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TheSpiceIsLife 7y ago

> We can always vote and legislate for something better. How? Which political party or independents promote a policy to reduce police powers? And even if there were, or are, any politicians with such a policy we ought to be more suspicious of them!

johnisgood 7y ago
Yeah, it is not going to happen through such ways. No way. Whoever would want to do it would be getting pressure from influential people on multiple fronts. Let us play with the thought though. Who would go through such risks? What would they gain from it?
philpem 7y ago
The trick is to spin it better. It's not "reducing police power", it's "even better training, tools and techniques for our hard-working police officers".
username223 7y ago
> How? Which political party or independents promote a policy to reduce police powers? Policing is mostly local, so I think this is an area where there's a real chance to make things better. National politics are hopelessly tribal in the US, but city/county level politics are much less so. Go to city council meetings. Pay attention, and complain if they try to buy leftover military hardware like a BearCat[1]. Vote for and talk to your councillors. Organize a petition to de-militarize your local police force. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenco_BearCat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenco_BearCat

justaguyhere 7y ago

We can always vote and legislate for something better Aren't you assuming that people want something better? I don't know if that is true. Many people refuse to believe cops can be bad (due to ignorance or whatever other reasons)