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Or take a burner device that you can sync down your data on the other side of the border.

JohnFen 8y ago
Yes, that's another viable method. I don't do that myself because I don't use the cloud. (And the burner I use is never a smartphone -- I tend to pick up one of the $10 ones)
- newnewpdro 8y ago
  > I don't do that myself because I don't use the cloud. What does that even mean? You don't use the internet? Surely you have an internet connection, and you could make your device accessible through the internet somehow for accessing your data. It doesn't require "the cloud" in the sense that you keep your data resident in "the cloud" on third-party servers... Punch a hole in your home internet firewall, or terminate a reverse ssh tunnel on some super cheap VPS provider to access your data from home.
  - JohnFen 8y ago
    It means that I don't use sync services and so forth. I certainly run fileservers of my own that I can access through the internet, but that's not what people mean by "the cloud", and very probably isn't what the comment I was replying to was talking about, as he specifically mentioned syncing the data to the device. But I may have misunderstood. Nonetheless, I don't do that anyway because I don't take a device that can make use of that data. I only take a very basic feature phone.
    - newnewpdro 8y ago
      The parent's point was take a "burner device", something that's better than a feature phone but that you wouldn't object to damaging or losing, don't bring any data on it, then pull the data down at your destination. This doesn't require a cloud service.
      - JohnFen 8y ago
        Good enough. And, as I said, that's a totally viable way to do it. It's just not what I do.
- clubm8 8y ago
  >And the burner I use is never a smartphone -- I tend to pick up one of the $10 ones Why? What is your threat model? All phones have software that can be hacked, not just smartphones. But Apple and Google have vast teams aimed at protecting this code... random Chinese OEMs probably don't. And once you are in country, a smartphone can use Signal (over a foreign SIM or wifi) to have encrypted comms, while all your texts and calls will be intercepted in the clear.
novok 8y ago
That is not a well supported use case unfortunately and involves hours of work to restore the burner phone to a state that you have set up.

Yes, that's another viable method. I don't do that myself because I don't use the cloud. (And the burner I use is never a smartphone -- I tend to pick up one of the $10 ones)

newnewpdro 8y ago
> I don't do that myself because I don't use the cloud. What does that even mean? You don't use the internet? Surely you have an internet connection, and you could make your device accessible through the internet somehow for accessing your data. It doesn't require "the cloud" in the sense that you keep your data resident in "the cloud" on third-party servers... Punch a hole in your home internet firewall, or terminate a reverse ssh tunnel on some super cheap VPS provider to access your data from home.
- JohnFen 8y ago
  It means that I don't use sync services and so forth. I certainly run fileservers of my own that I can access through the internet, but that's not what people mean by "the cloud", and very probably isn't what the comment I was replying to was talking about, as he specifically mentioned syncing the data to the device. But I may have misunderstood. Nonetheless, I don't do that anyway because I don't take a device that can make use of that data. I only take a very basic feature phone.
  - newnewpdro 8y ago
    The parent's point was take a "burner device", something that's better than a feature phone but that you wouldn't object to damaging or losing, don't bring any data on it, then pull the data down at your destination. This doesn't require a cloud service.
    - JohnFen 8y ago
      Good enough. And, as I said, that's a totally viable way to do it. It's just not what I do.
clubm8 8y ago
>And the burner I use is never a smartphone -- I tend to pick up one of the $10 ones Why? What is your threat model? All phones have software that can be hacked, not just smartphones. But Apple and Google have vast teams aimed at protecting this code... random Chinese OEMs probably don't. And once you are in country, a smartphone can use Signal (over a foreign SIM or wifi) to have encrypted comms, while all your texts and calls will be intercepted in the clear.

novok 8y ago

That is not a well supported use case unfortunately and involves hours of work to restore the burner phone to a state that you have set up.