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Am I missing something, or does the Rift-S page [0] not mention the device specs anywhere? That's killing the (minimal) remaining interest I had. 0: https://ww

Am I missing something, or does the Rift-S page [0] not mention the device specs anywhere? That's killing the (minimal) remaining interest I had. 0: https://www.oculus.com/rift-s/ https://www.oculus.com/rift-s/

ebg13 8y ago
Yeah. Here though: https://venturebeat.com/2019/03/20/oculus-rift-s-versus-oculus-rift-the-spec-comparison-chart/ https://venturebeat.com/2019/03/20/oculus-rift-s-versus-ocul... Interestingly, refresh rate is slower and IPD is non-adjustable (yikes).
- HeWhoLurksLate 8y ago
  IPD is adjusted digitally, per this article: https://www.wired.com/story/oculus-rift-s-vr-headset/ https://www.wired.com/story/oculus-rift-s-vr-headset/
  - ebg13 8y ago
    Uh-huh. http://palmerluckey.com/i-cant-use-rift-s-and-neither-can-you/ http://palmerluckey.com/i-cant-use-rift-s-and-neither-can-yo...
    - HeWhoLurksLate 8y ago
      I'm sorry, I didn't realize that there was that much more to it than I thought. If I could, I would edit the parent to say "IPD can be tweaked to a certain, limited degree, in software, per [link]", but I'm way outside of the edit window. I have pretty great (30/20) vision (no stigmatisms / etc., either), but my eyes are a little further apart than average- and every VR headset I've tried has been fine (including Cardboard), so I guess I was blind to the issues that can happen here. I suppose the best option that doesn't require manufacturing a bajillion SKU's would be some flavor of mechanical assembly with servo's in it / etc. so that the adjustments can be per-user (like some fancy drivers' seats) instead of manual, which can be irritating to find the perfect setup with- getting projectors perfectly square comes to mind.
- DuskStar 8y ago
  Ouch, that's painful. 90Hz is arguably too low already, and 80Hz is definitely so. Especially with Valve's offering coming in at "120Hz with an experimental 144Hz mode"... Yeah, that's a hard pass on the Rift S for me.
  - izzydata 8y ago
    The Vive probably has a way better screen, but the Oculus has way better controllers. At least they are way better for Beat Saber which is arguably the most controller motion intensive game available.
    - DuskStar 8y ago
      I wouldn't be surprised to see the Index controllers beat the ones for the Vive. (they're being sold standalone for people with a Vive already) Either way, controller fidelity is nothing if you can't use the headset without motion sickness, and framerates (+latency) are really important for that.
  - jackbrookes 8y ago
    80Hz is not "Definitely" to low. I use Oculus Go with a 60Hz refresh rate and have no issues. Its true that some will get motion sickness at 80Hz, but most will not. It will of course be more apparent in high speed games
mikenew 8y ago
You don't advertise things you aren't proud of. Valve will be doing a full reveal of the Index tomorrow, and based on what we know so far it will be more expensive and vastly better. At the very least it will be a headset designed for PC gaming by a company that cares about it, rather than a rebranded Windows Mixed Reality headset with a few extra cameras.
- ihuman 8y ago
  Valve already revealed the index today https://www.valvesoftware.com/en/index https://www.valvesoftware.com/en/index https://store.steampowered.com/app/1059530/Valve_Index_Headset/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/1059530/Valve_Index_Heads...
  - mikenew 8y ago
    Wow, stop watching the news for like an hour and look what happens.
  - Rebelgecko 8y ago
    Yikes, $1,000. I was really hoping it would be cost competitive with Oculus
    - neetdeth 8y ago
      I'm actually happy to see this. Strongly feel that the current generation of headsets are not good enough and VR needs at least one more cycle of pushing the envelope at the high end price point before finding mass market success. Unfortunately, GPU performance per watt/$ seems to be capping out just short of the goal.
  - mrguyorama 8y ago
    Good lord guess I'm never upgrading my Vive
    - ihuman 8y ago
      If you already have the Vive, you can get just the HMD for $500. It's compatible with the Vive's v1 lighthouses and controllers. Or, you can just get the controllers and continue using your Vive.
HeWhoLurksLate 8y ago
Elsewhere on the Oculus site indicates that the Quest has a Qualcomm Snapdragon 835. This lovely article [1] states that: • The tracking system has been massively changed, and now functions from the inside-out- only needing one [I think, not sure] tracking device. • The same single switching 1280 x 1440 display, but there's an improved lens setup that should help reduce the screen-door effect • Interpupillary distance adjustment is now digital [this seems really useful] •Mounting system has gone through a complete redesign, thanks to a partnership with Lenovo. [1] https://www.wired.com/story/oculus-rift-s-vr-headset/ https://www.wired.com/story/oculus-rift-s-vr-headset/
- Rebelgecko 8y ago
  I've seen digital-only IPD adjustment listed as a con elsewhere
  - HeWhoLurksLate 8y ago
    Evidentally, it is for non-average folks.

ebg13 8y ago

Yeah. Here though: https://venturebeat.com/2019/03/20/oculus-rift-s-versus-oculus-rift-the-spec-comparison-chart/ https://venturebeat.com/2019/03/20/oculus-rift-s-versus-ocul... Interestingly, refresh rate is slower and IPD is non-adjustable (yikes).

HeWhoLurksLate 8y ago
IPD is adjusted digitally, per this article: https://www.wired.com/story/oculus-rift-s-vr-headset/ https://www.wired.com/story/oculus-rift-s-vr-headset/
- ebg13 8y ago
  Uh-huh. http://palmerluckey.com/i-cant-use-rift-s-and-neither-can-you/ http://palmerluckey.com/i-cant-use-rift-s-and-neither-can-yo...
  - HeWhoLurksLate 8y ago
    I'm sorry, I didn't realize that there was that much more to it than I thought. If I could, I would edit the parent to say "IPD can be tweaked to a certain, limited degree, in software, per [link]", but I'm way outside of the edit window. I have pretty great (30/20) vision (no stigmatisms / etc., either), but my eyes are a little further apart than average- and every VR headset I've tried has been fine (including Cardboard), so I guess I was blind to the issues that can happen here. I suppose the best option that doesn't require manufacturing a bajillion SKU's would be some flavor of mechanical assembly with servo's in it / etc. so that the adjustments can be per-user (like some fancy drivers' seats) instead of manual, which can be irritating to find the perfect setup with- getting projectors perfectly square comes to mind.
DuskStar 8y ago
Ouch, that's painful. 90Hz is arguably too low already, and 80Hz is definitely so. Especially with Valve's offering coming in at "120Hz with an experimental 144Hz mode"... Yeah, that's a hard pass on the Rift S for me.
- izzydata 8y ago
  The Vive probably has a way better screen, but the Oculus has way better controllers. At least they are way better for Beat Saber which is arguably the most controller motion intensive game available.
  - DuskStar 8y ago
    I wouldn't be surprised to see the Index controllers beat the ones for the Vive. (they're being sold standalone for people with a Vive already) Either way, controller fidelity is nothing if you can't use the headset without motion sickness, and framerates (+latency) are really important for that.
- jackbrookes 8y ago
  80Hz is not "Definitely" to low. I use Oculus Go with a 60Hz refresh rate and have no issues. Its true that some will get motion sickness at 80Hz, but most will not. It will of course be more apparent in high speed games

mikenew 8y ago

You don't advertise things you aren't proud of. Valve will be doing a full reveal of the Index tomorrow, and based on what we know so far it will be more expensive and vastly better. At the very least it will be a headset designed for PC gaming by a company that cares about it, rather than a rebranded Windows Mixed Reality headset with a few extra cameras.

ihuman 8y ago
Valve already revealed the index today https://www.valvesoftware.com/en/index https://www.valvesoftware.com/en/index https://store.steampowered.com/app/1059530/Valve_Index_Headset/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/1059530/Valve_Index_Heads...
- mikenew 8y ago
  Wow, stop watching the news for like an hour and look what happens.
- Rebelgecko 8y ago
  Yikes, $1,000. I was really hoping it would be cost competitive with Oculus
  - neetdeth 8y ago
    I'm actually happy to see this. Strongly feel that the current generation of headsets are not good enough and VR needs at least one more cycle of pushing the envelope at the high end price point before finding mass market success. Unfortunately, GPU performance per watt/$ seems to be capping out just short of the goal.
- mrguyorama 8y ago
  Good lord guess I'm never upgrading my Vive
  - ihuman 8y ago
    If you already have the Vive, you can get just the HMD for $500. It's compatible with the Vive's v1 lighthouses and controllers. Or, you can just get the controllers and continue using your Vive.

HeWhoLurksLate 8y ago

Elsewhere on the Oculus site indicates that the Quest has a Qualcomm Snapdragon 835. This lovely article [1] states that: • The tracking system has been massively changed, and now functions from the inside-out- only needing one [I think, not sure] tracking device. • The same single switching 1280 x 1440 display, but there's an improved lens setup that should help reduce the screen-door effect • Interpupillary distance adjustment is now digital [this seems really useful] •Mounting system has gone through a complete redesign, thanks to a partnership with Lenovo. [1] https://www.wired.com/story/oculus-rift-s-vr-headset/ https://www.wired.com/story/oculus-rift-s-vr-headset/

Rebelgecko 8y ago
I've seen digital-only IPD adjustment listed as a con elsewhere
- HeWhoLurksLate 8y ago
  Evidentally, it is for non-average folks.