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The Article doesn't clearly state how many of the measle cases occurred in people with vaccinations. The only reference was sort of vague and indicates about 28

The Article doesn't clearly state how many of the measle cases occurred in people with vaccinations. The only reference was sort of vague and indicates about 28% of the cases were in people who were in fact vaccinated. That seems quite high. In short, instead of bashing people who choose not to vaccinate, why aren't the authors looking into why there was -- apparently -- a 28% failure rate in the vaccines? That seems strange. Maybe there was a bad batch of vaccines? But, easier to criticize orthodox Jewish families than a pharmaceutical company, I guess. Edit: it's not a '28% failure rate.' Not even close. But, I would like an article like this to at least provide some data as to the effectiveness of the vaccine in the first place.

foxyv 7y ago
That's bayesian statistics for you. Measles vaccine works about 97% of the time. But if 91% of the population is vaccinated skewing the number of people who catch the disease. P(H) - You have a 91% chance of being vaccinated. [2] P(H|P) - You have a 3% chance of catching measles if you are vaccinated and exposed. [3] P(H|P') - You have a 90% chance of catching measles if you are not-vaccinated and exposed. [3] P(H|D) - About 25% of the population that catches measles will be vaccinated. [4] (1) https://www.sciencenews.org/article/holes-herd-immunity-led-25-year-high-us-measles-cases https://www.sciencenews.org/article/holes-herd-immunity-led-... (2) https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/vaccination-best-protection-against-measles https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/vaccination-b... (3) https://www.nvic.org/vaccines-and-diseases/measles/measles-vaccine-effectiveness.aspx https://www.nvic.org/vaccines-and-diseases/measles/measles-v... (4) http://psych.fullerton.edu/mbirnbaum/bayes/BayesCalc.htm http://psych.fullerton.edu/mbirnbaum/bayes/BayesCalc.htm

foxyv 7y ago

That's bayesian statistics for you. Measles vaccine works about 97% of the time. But if 91% of the population is vaccinated skewing the number of people who catch the disease. P(H) - You have a 91% chance of being vaccinated. [2] P(H|P) - You have a 3% chance of catching measles if you are vaccinated and exposed. [3] P(H|P') - You have a 90% chance of catching measles if you are not-vaccinated and exposed. [3] P(H|D) - About 25% of the population that catches measles will be vaccinated. [4] (1) https://www.sciencenews.org/article/holes-herd-immunity-led-25-year-high-us-measles-cases https://www.sciencenews.org/article/holes-herd-immunity-led-... (2) https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/vaccination-best-protection-against-measles https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/vaccination-b... (3) https://www.nvic.org/vaccines-and-diseases/measles/measles-vaccine-effectiveness.aspx https://www.nvic.org/vaccines-and-diseases/measles/measles-v... (4) http://psych.fullerton.edu/mbirnbaum/bayes/BayesCalc.htm http://psych.fullerton.edu/mbirnbaum/bayes/BayesCalc.htm