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> King Louis of France Which one? Because there's 17 of them. (I count 17 kings of France named Louis, since Louis 17 never reigned or anything)

jcranmer 8y ago
Probably Louis XIV, who was infamous for his role in the centralization of power in France. It's he to whom the statement "L'etat, c'est moi" is attributed. Side note for all the "Louis" of France: Louis XIV was succeeded by his great-grandson Louis XV, having outlived both his son Louis and his grandson Louis. It seems Henry IV's descendants had a penchant for naming everybody in line to the throne as Louis.
- AnimalMuppet 8y ago
  That's his shining example? The believer in "divine right", who led France into a bunch of wars for his own glory and thereby got a bunch of his people killed? That's his example of a leader following "absolute truth"? Sheesh. For his own sake, I sure hope he was trolling.
  - sdegutis 8y ago
    Saint Louis IX, King of France
    - AnimalMuppet 8y ago
      ... who ordered the burning of Jewish religious books, and expanded the scope of the Inquisition within France. But even if you accept Louis IX as the perfect ruler, what do you do once he dies? What do you do when you get Louis XIV?
      - sdegutis 8y ago
        I'm not suggesting a monarchy is the best way to get such a ruler, in fact it seems problematic for that exact reason. I'm just an uneducated fool with limited opinions on government, but I think if we elected something like a President but with much more power like a king, and if the people who elected him understood virtue correctly, and if the election process was made much more fair, and if nations governed smaller (more manageable) amounts of people than the USA does, and if corporations were given significantly less say in the direction of the government (to shut all those awfully abused loopholes), the world would be on a good path.

jcranmer 8y ago

Probably Louis XIV, who was infamous for his role in the centralization of power in France. It's he to whom the statement "L'etat, c'est moi" is attributed. Side note for all the "Louis" of France: Louis XIV was succeeded by his great-grandson Louis XV, having outlived both his son Louis and his grandson Louis. It seems Henry IV's descendants had a penchant for naming everybody in line to the throne as Louis.

AnimalMuppet 8y ago
That's his shining example? The believer in "divine right", who led France into a bunch of wars for his own glory and thereby got a bunch of his people killed? That's his example of a leader following "absolute truth"? Sheesh. For his own sake, I sure hope he was trolling.
- sdegutis 8y ago
  Saint Louis IX, King of France
  - AnimalMuppet 8y ago
    ... who ordered the burning of Jewish religious books, and expanded the scope of the Inquisition within France. But even if you accept Louis IX as the perfect ruler, what do you do once he dies? What do you do when you get Louis XIV?
    - sdegutis 8y ago
      I'm not suggesting a monarchy is the best way to get such a ruler, in fact it seems problematic for that exact reason. I'm just an uneducated fool with limited opinions on government, but I think if we elected something like a President but with much more power like a king, and if the people who elected him understood virtue correctly, and if the election process was made much more fair, and if nations governed smaller (more manageable) amounts of people than the USA does, and if corporations were given significantly less say in the direction of the government (to shut all those awfully abused loopholes), the world would be on a good path.