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Do you know what the Netflix culture is regarding remote work ? I've been looking for a job for the first time in 10 years of Python, and Netflix is one of the

Do you know what the Netflix culture is regarding remote work ? I've been looking for a job for the first time in 10 years of Python, and Netflix is one of the rare big companies that I still have respect for. https://jobs.netflix.com/ https://jobs.netflix.com/ has several offers I would be a good fit for, but I'm not ready to relocate to the US.

dudul 7y ago
They don't do it.
- sametmax 7y ago
  Thanks. Working at Netflix ?
  - dudul 7y ago
    No, but I have a friend who used to work there as an engineering manager 2-ish years ago. I did hit him up with the same question and he told me that's definitely not part of their culture.
- deleted 7y ago
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drewg123 7y ago
We do have an office in Paris: https://jobs.netflix.com/locations/paris-france https://jobs.netflix.com/locations/paris-france Netflix is generally opposed to remote work, but some teams may make case by case exceptions (especially in Open Connect, the organization which manages the CDN). I'd encourage you to speak to a recruiter.
- sametmax 7y ago
  Thank you. Will do.
- 2trill2spill 7y ago
  How come the Open connect team is more receptive to remote work? Harder to find people to work on FreeBSD and low level C code?
  - jwandborg 7y ago
    Maybe because their hardware architecture is distributed.
  - madsushi 7y ago
    They're also working with a ton of remote and disparate organizations (ISPs), so locality is probably not as important.
jimmaswell 7y ago
As someone who has worked on fully remote game dev volunteer projects for nearly 10 years, it's unbelievable how much the cultural inertia of physical presence has prevented companies from making the rational move of eliminating all possible office space in favor of remote work and skype meetings. So much money wasted on rent, security, and upkeep and so much time (and even lives) lost to commuting when there isn't a single compelling reason programmers need to cohabitate a physical office to get their job done.
- tcbawo 7y ago
  Companies invest a lot in their employees. They don't want them to leave. In many managers' eyes, physical presence in the office makes it much easier to gauge employee satisfaction and whether they may be out interviewing. Also, it seems that in many organizations still, the employees that arrive to work earliest, are most punctual, most consistent, most organized, best dressed are viewed as more competent and are favored.
- mixmastamyk 7y ago
  Especially when their stuff runs on AWS.
  - praneshp 7y ago
    what that does have to do with remote work? I commute to work everyday, but my team's code doesn't run in a cpu under my desk.
    - mixmastamyk 7y ago
      Systems administration used to be done in-house.
- sametmax 7y ago
  I get it personally. Remote requires better communication skill, and additional tooling and management to work around time differences. Besides, I know many people that are not as productive at home.
mixmastamyk 7y ago
Their job site is a big /dev/null however. I spent several years dutifully submitting for numerous jobs with twenty years experience in internet and VFX in Hollywood and didn't even get an "other direction" form-letter for my trouble. (They don't date their posts so you have no idea which are active.) Netflix is in biking distance, but instead I work for a company on the east coast, 4000km away, waking at the crack of dawn.
- sametmax 7y ago
  Rejection is not a problem to me. The world is a big place, and it moves fast.
  - mixmastamyk 7y ago
    Bueller? It's not a problem of hurt feelings, rather a huge waste of time.
    - sametmax 7y ago
      And the local girl may not want you. And the local club may not have the culture you want. And the local market may be not hold your favorite products. And the local schools may not be the right for your children. There is always something. It's not possible to solve every problem, I prefer to choose my battles. Getting polite rejection letters is not important to me.
      - mixmastamyk 7y ago
        You've now replied twice addressing the least important part of my post.
        sametmax 7y ago
        Important to you, not to me.
        7y ago
jogjayr 7y ago
I was told it was not an option, when I discussed an engineering IC role with them.
winter_blue 7y ago
> but I'm not ready to relocate to the US Even if you wanted to, it's nearly impossible to immigrate to the US as a skilled worker legally. I have a friend who is an really talented programmer (and a really diligent worker) who studied Computer Science at some of the best universities in Europe: École Centrale Paris and the EPFL (École Polytechnique Fédérale de Lausanne) in Switzerland. One of his biggest desires for a while was to move to the US, and live and work in New York. He spent more than 2 years trying to the US, and then gave up. He had even hesitated buying too much furniture while in France, because he was anticipating being able to move to the US. The only viable option to move to the US for most people in your (and his) situation would be the H-1B visa, which is extraordinarily difficult to get, and requires a miracle to obtain. You need to: (1) have a bachelor's degree that's related to the field you want to work in -- e.g. Computer Science degree for software development work, (2) find a company that's willing to offer you a job that pay at least what Americans make doing the same job, (3) the company must be willing to wait 7-8 months, (4) you need to win a lottery in which your odds of success are about 1 in 3. (1) and (2) are not too difficult. (3) is quite difficult -- the majority companies do not want to wait for 7-8 months for you to join. And (4) is completely up to chance, and out of your control. (By the way, this lottery is conducted at the beginning of April every year, and you can only start working in October. My friend fulfilled criteria (1), (2), and the difficult (3). But he did not get selected in the H-1B lottery two years in a row. The US is essentially a closed country when it comes to skilled immigration. Most of the immigrants who get green cards here are family members, refugees/asylees, and diversity lottery winners. Getting even temporary permission to work in the U.S. as a educated/skilled person requires a miracle from God.
- sametmax 7y ago
  I know at least 3 french persons that managed to make it work. They don't even work for a FAANGs, and only of of them is technically better than I am. I'm an optimist :)
  - winter_blue 7y ago
    Could you ask them on what visa they moved to the U.S.? I know a few French people in New York. But they're on J-1 visas -- which are very short in duration (~1 year), and truly temporary -- you are required to have plans to return to your "home country" after that period. It offers no practical path towards permanent residence. The only visas that don't prohibit immigrant intent (i.e. desire to immigrate + company applying for permanent residence for you) are the H-1B visa, L-1 visa, and O-1 visa. For anyone looking to permanently move the U.S. on the basis of skills, those are the only options. (I didn't mention the L-1 and O-1 in my comment above because they're even more narrowly granted.) > only of of them is technically better Technical skill doesn't really matter with the H-1B visa; only salary really does. Even going to a top university doesn't mean anything. The lottery doesn't discriminate. There are foreign students who graduate from the best universities in the U.S. like Harvard, Yale, MIT, etc, often with advanced degrees (Master's / PhD), with good high-paying jobs, who get deported from the US because they did not win the H-1B lottery. The Harvard Crimson complained about this even back in 2007: https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2007/4/9/raise-the-h-1b-cap-many-members/ https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2007/4/9/raise-the-h-1b-c...

dudul 7y ago

They don't do it.

sametmax 7y ago
Thanks. Working at Netflix ?
- dudul 7y ago
  No, but I have a friend who used to work there as an engineering manager 2-ish years ago. I did hit him up with the same question and he told me that's definitely not part of their culture.
deleted 7y ago
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drewg123 7y ago

We do have an office in Paris: https://jobs.netflix.com/locations/paris-france https://jobs.netflix.com/locations/paris-france Netflix is generally opposed to remote work, but some teams may make case by case exceptions (especially in Open Connect, the organization which manages the CDN). I'd encourage you to speak to a recruiter.

sametmax 7y ago
Thank you. Will do.
2trill2spill 7y ago
How come the Open connect team is more receptive to remote work? Harder to find people to work on FreeBSD and low level C code?
- jwandborg 7y ago
  Maybe because their hardware architecture is distributed.
- madsushi 7y ago
  They're also working with a ton of remote and disparate organizations (ISPs), so locality is probably not as important.

jimmaswell 7y ago

As someone who has worked on fully remote game dev volunteer projects for nearly 10 years, it's unbelievable how much the cultural inertia of physical presence has prevented companies from making the rational move of eliminating all possible office space in favor of remote work and skype meetings. So much money wasted on rent, security, and upkeep and so much time (and even lives) lost to commuting when there isn't a single compelling reason programmers need to cohabitate a physical office to get their job done.

tcbawo 7y ago
Companies invest a lot in their employees. They don't want them to leave. In many managers' eyes, physical presence in the office makes it much easier to gauge employee satisfaction and whether they may be out interviewing. Also, it seems that in many organizations still, the employees that arrive to work earliest, are most punctual, most consistent, most organized, best dressed are viewed as more competent and are favored.
mixmastamyk 7y ago
Especially when their stuff runs on AWS.
- praneshp 7y ago
  what that does have to do with remote work? I commute to work everyday, but my team's code doesn't run in a cpu under my desk.
  - mixmastamyk 7y ago
    Systems administration used to be done in-house.
sametmax 7y ago
I get it personally. Remote requires better communication skill, and additional tooling and management to work around time differences. Besides, I know many people that are not as productive at home.

mixmastamyk 7y ago

Their job site is a big /dev/null however. I spent several years dutifully submitting for numerous jobs with twenty years experience in internet and VFX in Hollywood and didn't even get an "other direction" form-letter for my trouble. (They don't date their posts so you have no idea which are active.) Netflix is in biking distance, but instead I work for a company on the east coast, 4000km away, waking at the crack of dawn.

sametmax 7y ago
Rejection is not a problem to me. The world is a big place, and it moves fast.
- mixmastamyk 7y ago
  Bueller? It's not a problem of hurt feelings, rather a huge waste of time.
  - sametmax 7y ago
    And the local girl may not want you. And the local club may not have the culture you want. And the local market may be not hold your favorite products. And the local schools may not be the right for your children. There is always something. It's not possible to solve every problem, I prefer to choose my battles. Getting polite rejection letters is not important to me.
    - mixmastamyk 7y ago
      You've now replied twice addressing the least important part of my post.
      - sametmax 7y ago
        Important to you, not to me.
        7y ago

jogjayr 7y ago

I was told it was not an option, when I discussed an engineering IC role with them.

winter_blue 7y ago

> but I'm not ready to relocate to the US Even if you wanted to, it's nearly impossible to immigrate to the US as a skilled worker legally. I have a friend who is an really talented programmer (and a really diligent worker) who studied Computer Science at some of the best universities in Europe: École Centrale Paris and the EPFL (École Polytechnique Fédérale de Lausanne) in Switzerland. One of his biggest desires for a while was to move to the US, and live and work in New York. He spent more than 2 years trying to the US, and then gave up. He had even hesitated buying too much furniture while in France, because he was anticipating being able to move to the US. The only viable option to move to the US for most people in your (and his) situation would be the H-1B visa, which is extraordinarily difficult to get, and requires a miracle to obtain. You need to: (1) have a bachelor's degree that's related to the field you want to work in -- e.g. Computer Science degree for software development work, (2) find a company that's willing to offer you a job that pay at least what Americans make doing the same job, (3) the company must be willing to wait 7-8 months, (4) you need to win a lottery in which your odds of success are about 1 in 3. (1) and (2) are not too difficult. (3) is quite difficult -- the majority companies do not want to wait for 7-8 months for you to join. And (4) is completely up to chance, and out of your control. (By the way, this lottery is conducted at the beginning of April every year, and you can only start working in October. My friend fulfilled criteria (1), (2), and the difficult (3). But he did not get selected in the H-1B lottery two years in a row. The US is essentially a closed country when it comes to skilled immigration. Most of the immigrants who get green cards here are family members, refugees/asylees, and diversity lottery winners. Getting even temporary permission to work in the U.S. as a educated/skilled person requires a miracle from God.

sametmax 7y ago
I know at least 3 french persons that managed to make it work. They don't even work for a FAANGs, and only of of them is technically better than I am. I'm an optimist :)
- winter_blue 7y ago
  Could you ask them on what visa they moved to the U.S.? I know a few French people in New York. But they're on J-1 visas -- which are very short in duration (~1 year), and truly temporary -- you are required to have plans to return to your "home country" after that period. It offers no practical path towards permanent residence. The only visas that don't prohibit immigrant intent (i.e. desire to immigrate + company applying for permanent residence for you) are the H-1B visa, L-1 visa, and O-1 visa. For anyone looking to permanently move the U.S. on the basis of skills, those are the only options. (I didn't mention the L-1 and O-1 in my comment above because they're even more narrowly granted.) > only of of them is technically better Technical skill doesn't really matter with the H-1B visa; only salary really does. Even going to a top university doesn't mean anything. The lottery doesn't discriminate. There are foreign students who graduate from the best universities in the U.S. like Harvard, Yale, MIT, etc, often with advanced degrees (Master's / PhD), with good high-paying jobs, who get deported from the US because they did not win the H-1B lottery. The Harvard Crimson complained about this even back in 2007: https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2007/4/9/raise-the-h-1b-cap-many-members/ https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2007/4/9/raise-the-h-1b-c...