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Interesting news, but totally irrelevant to the WikiLeaks operation. They have absolutely thought this through, with all the necessary "insurance" they have be

by yuvadam 16y ago

Interesting news, but totally irrelevant to the WikiLeaks operation. They have absolutely thought this through, with all the necessary "insurance" they have been spreading around. Regardless of the fate of one man - Assange - classified information will continue to leak. The wheels are in motion.

michael_dorfman 16y ago
I'm not sure I agree with you. Yes, classified information will continue to leak, as it always has. But WikiLeaks, at least to my knowledge, is deeply wrapped up with Assange, and it is not clear (to me, at least) how it would function in his absence. In the words of this article (http://networkcultures.org/wpmu/geert/2010/08/30/ten-theses-on-wikileaks/ http://networkcultures.org/wpmu/geert/2010/08/30/ten-theses-...), WikiLeaks is essentially a "Single Person Organization".
- cookiecaper 16y ago
  With all this hoopla, Assange and Wikileaks will serve as an inspiration and martyr to others who will create sites for similar purposes. I'd even consider creating one myself if I had the resources. As for the content hosted by Wikileaks itself, thousands of mirrors and torrents of that have been going up since the fervor over the cables. I wouldn't worry too much about that. I think the real worry should be that Assange is about to get black-bagged.
  - seabee 16y ago
    Similar sites exist already e.g. Cryptome. It's just a matter of getting information to a source that will publicise it, and whether others have the chops to go as far as Wikileaks, even risking events like this.
- yuvadam 16y ago
  Actually, I think Assange did a pretty god job of making it look like a one-man-operation when it is positively clear there are many more skillful people involved in WikiLeaks. Assange might take the fall, but the means nothing of the rest of the operation.
  - blasdel 16y ago
    What evidence is there of skillful people helping out? All I see is total technical incompetence: https://p10.secure.hostingprod.com/@spyblog.org.uk/ssl/wikileak/ https://p10.secure.hostingprod.com/@spyblog.org.uk/ssl/wikil... Wikileaks: It's not a wiki, and you can't leak anything through it
liuliu 16y ago
It is more about the continuity of the site. If the financial source is dried up as suggested in the article, Wikileaks as a website will eventually die, and it is not about this particular cablegate. Of course, Wikileaks probably already prepared for all these. I am just still surprised that so many companies act together to stop Wikileaks as an organization without any illegal charges yet.
cookiecaper 16y ago
I expect that this was carefully planned. Ideal would be the leak of documents describing the conspiracy to trump up charges against Assange after the relevant governments realized that he cannot be prosecuted under any existing speech or espionage laws. I'm also curious to see at what point the key for Assange's insurance.aes is leaked.

by yuvadam 16y ago

michael_dorfman 16y ago

I'm not sure I agree with you. Yes, classified information will continue to leak, as it always has. But WikiLeaks, at least to my knowledge, is deeply wrapped up with Assange, and it is not clear (to me, at least) how it would function in his absence. In the words of this article (http://networkcultures.org/wpmu/geert/2010/08/30/ten-theses-on-wikileaks/ http://networkcultures.org/wpmu/geert/2010/08/30/ten-theses-...), WikiLeaks is essentially a "Single Person Organization".

cookiecaper 16y ago
With all this hoopla, Assange and Wikileaks will serve as an inspiration and martyr to others who will create sites for similar purposes. I'd even consider creating one myself if I had the resources. As for the content hosted by Wikileaks itself, thousands of mirrors and torrents of that have been going up since the fervor over the cables. I wouldn't worry too much about that. I think the real worry should be that Assange is about to get black-bagged.
- seabee 16y ago
  Similar sites exist already e.g. Cryptome. It's just a matter of getting information to a source that will publicise it, and whether others have the chops to go as far as Wikileaks, even risking events like this.
yuvadam 16y ago
Actually, I think Assange did a pretty god job of making it look like a one-man-operation when it is positively clear there are many more skillful people involved in WikiLeaks. Assange might take the fall, but the means nothing of the rest of the operation.
- blasdel 16y ago
  What evidence is there of skillful people helping out? All I see is total technical incompetence: https://p10.secure.hostingprod.com/@spyblog.org.uk/ssl/wikileak/ https://p10.secure.hostingprod.com/@spyblog.org.uk/ssl/wikil... Wikileaks: It's not a wiki, and you can't leak anything through it

liuliu 16y ago

It is more about the continuity of the site. If the financial source is dried up as suggested in the article, Wikileaks as a website will eventually die, and it is not about this particular cablegate. Of course, Wikileaks probably already prepared for all these. I am just still surprised that so many companies act together to stop Wikileaks as an organization without any illegal charges yet.

cookiecaper 16y ago

I expect that this was carefully planned. Ideal would be the leak of documents describing the conspiracy to trump up charges against Assange after the relevant governments realized that he cannot be prosecuted under any existing speech or espionage laws. I'm also curious to see at what point the key for Assange's insurance.aes is leaked.