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Netflix show 13 Reasons Why associated with 28.9% rise in suicide rates in youth

6 points by rahuldottech 8y ago

rahuldottech 8y ago
Full title that HN wouldn't allow: The Netflix show "13 Reasons Why" was associated with a 28.9% increase in suicide rates among U.S. youth ages 10-17 in the month (April 2017) following the shows release, after accounting for ongoing trends in suicide rates, according to a study.
rahuldottech 8y ago
> many are strongly opposed to the confusing messages in the show (justice in life is not possible, but kill yourself and you might just get revenge). Many experts insist that the show glamorizes suicide and may even set off or increase suicidal ideation in vulnerable teens. From [0], April 2017 [0]: https://www.weareteachers.com/problem-with-13-reasons-why/ https://www.weareteachers.com/problem-with-13-reasons-why/
orian 8y ago
And... that would be about the "social responsibility" of business. This is clearly a huge social cost. How should a society, government deal with situation like this? How they do right now? (I'm interested in a general view, not only the US, cause they're crazy about "do what you want no matter the social cost")
throwaway77384 8y ago
Not to spoil this, but what were the reasons? Are they convincing? Like another commenter said, the show apparently states that "justice in life is not possible" and in my opinion that is rather valid, considering what you can get away with as soon as you attain some sort of arbitrary status, as a high public office or just a lot of wealth. I don't want to kill myself, because I get more joy out of being a constant thorn in the sides of the corrupt, but as a teenager you may well feel differently. And for good reason. I felt more helpless as a teenager as well and did at times ponder whether a strongly worded suicide note along with suicide would achieve more than anything else I could have done. That is no longer true, but that still doesn't change that I did experience those feelings. Isn't it more important to address this than to (as perhaps legislators may try) simply prohibit media that deal with these themes? See the most recent scandal in the UK where a debate kicked off around whether instagram et al should allow content from people showing off their self-harm, etc...
danso 8y ago
Here's the press release from NIH.gov: https://www.nimh.nih.gov/news/science-news/2019/release-of-13-reasons-why-associated-with-increase-in-youth-suicide-rates.shtml https://www.nimh.nih.gov/news/science-news/2019/release-of-1... The study as it appears on the journal's website: https://www.jaacap.org/article/S0890-8567(19)30288-6/fulltext https://www.jaacap.org/article/S0890-8567(19)30288-6/fulltex...

6 points by rahuldottech 8y ago

Full title that HN wouldn't allow: The Netflix show "13 Reasons Why" was associated with a 28.9% increase in suicide rates among U.S. youth ages 10-17 in the month (April 2017) following the shows release, after accounting for ongoing trends in suicide rates, according to a study.

rahuldottech 8y ago

> many are strongly opposed to the confusing messages in the show (justice in life is not possible, but kill yourself and you might just get revenge). Many experts insist that the show glamorizes suicide and may even set off or increase suicidal ideation in vulnerable teens. From [0], April 2017 [0]: https://www.weareteachers.com/problem-with-13-reasons-why/ https://www.weareteachers.com/problem-with-13-reasons-why/

orian 8y ago

And... that would be about the "social responsibility" of business. This is clearly a huge social cost. How should a society, government deal with situation like this? How they do right now? (I'm interested in a general view, not only the US, cause they're crazy about "do what you want no matter the social cost")

throwaway77384 8y ago

Not to spoil this, but what were the reasons? Are they convincing? Like another commenter said, the show apparently states that "justice in life is not possible" and in my opinion that is rather valid, considering what you can get away with as soon as you attain some sort of arbitrary status, as a high public office or just a lot of wealth. I don't want to kill myself, because I get more joy out of being a constant thorn in the sides of the corrupt, but as a teenager you may well feel differently. And for good reason. I felt more helpless as a teenager as well and did at times ponder whether a strongly worded suicide note along with suicide would achieve more than anything else I could have done. That is no longer true, but that still doesn't change that I did experience those feelings. Isn't it more important to address this than to (as perhaps legislators may try) simply prohibit media that deal with these themes? See the most recent scandal in the UK where a debate kicked off around whether instagram et al should allow content from people showing off their self-harm, etc...

danso 8y ago

Here's the press release from NIH.gov: https://www.nimh.nih.gov/news/science-news/2019/release-of-13-reasons-why-associated-with-increase-in-youth-suicide-rates.shtml https://www.nimh.nih.gov/news/science-news/2019/release-of-1... The study as it appears on the journal's website: https://www.jaacap.org/article/S0890-8567(19)30288-6/fulltext https://www.jaacap.org/article/S0890-8567(19)30288-6/fulltex...