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> “Decades of living dangerously in terms of water resource management, urban planning, waste and wastewater management, is taking its toll on the megacity. Thi

> “Decades of living dangerously in terms of water resource management, urban planning, waste and wastewater management, is taking its toll on the megacity. This is made possible by poor city planning, environmental and conservation policies, enforcement and practices.” What are the chances that Indonesia’s incompetence won’t be incompetent at managing the environmental impact of their next capital city?

thaumasiotes 7y ago
Zero, but things will eventually adjust out of necessity.
jpatokal 7y ago
I recently had the chance to visit Jakarta after over 10 years away, and they're finally starting to get some things right. The recent emphasis on public transport is particularly promising: the first MRT (subway) line finally opened this year, there's a lot more on the way, they've beefed up the commuter railways, Jakarta airport T3 is head and shoulders above the old ones, etc. Some bloggage on the topic: https://driftingclouds.net/2019/03/28/jakarta-by-rail-mrt-opening-week/ https://driftingclouds.net/2019/03/28/jakarta-by-rail-mrt-op... https://driftingclouds.net/2019/04/01/jakarta-by-rail-airport-rail-link-and-skytrain/ https://driftingclouds.net/2019/04/01/jakarta-by-rail-airpor... Much of the credit goes to recently re-elected president Jokowi, who's the least incompetent leader Indonesia has had in a while (possibly ever/since independence?) and who's also the prime mover behind the new capital idea. That said, I'm not entirely sold on the idea myself, the track record of other SE Asian countries trying this -- Putrajaya in Malaysia and particularly Pyongyang-in-the-tropics aka Naypyidaw in Myanmar -- are not encouraging. http://www.thebohemianblog.com/2017/07/naypyidaw-myanmar-ghost-city-capital.html http://www.thebohemianblog.com/2017/07/naypyidaw-myanmar-gho...
- mango7283 7y ago
  Yeah, and Putrajaya barely qualifies as moving the capital, given it's still part of KL's metropolitan area.
chewz 7y ago
Forward thinking isn't in high regard in Indonesian culture.

thaumasiotes 7y ago

Zero, but things will eventually adjust out of necessity.

jpatokal 7y ago

I recently had the chance to visit Jakarta after over 10 years away, and they're finally starting to get some things right. The recent emphasis on public transport is particularly promising: the first MRT (subway) line finally opened this year, there's a lot more on the way, they've beefed up the commuter railways, Jakarta airport T3 is head and shoulders above the old ones, etc. Some bloggage on the topic: https://driftingclouds.net/2019/03/28/jakarta-by-rail-mrt-opening-week/ https://driftingclouds.net/2019/03/28/jakarta-by-rail-mrt-op... https://driftingclouds.net/2019/04/01/jakarta-by-rail-airport-rail-link-and-skytrain/ https://driftingclouds.net/2019/04/01/jakarta-by-rail-airpor... Much of the credit goes to recently re-elected president Jokowi, who's the least incompetent leader Indonesia has had in a while (possibly ever/since independence?) and who's also the prime mover behind the new capital idea. That said, I'm not entirely sold on the idea myself, the track record of other SE Asian countries trying this -- Putrajaya in Malaysia and particularly Pyongyang-in-the-tropics aka Naypyidaw in Myanmar -- are not encouraging. http://www.thebohemianblog.com/2017/07/naypyidaw-myanmar-ghost-city-capital.html http://www.thebohemianblog.com/2017/07/naypyidaw-myanmar-gho...

mango7283 7y ago
Yeah, and Putrajaya barely qualifies as moving the capital, given it's still part of KL's metropolitan area.

chewz 7y ago

Forward thinking isn't in high regard in Indonesian culture.