4 ms·

Just a fair warning to anyone thinking about backing anything on Kickstarter: You have absolutely no legal recourse to against a company that doesn't deliver y

Just a fair warning to anyone thinking about backing anything on Kickstarter: You have absolutely no legal recourse to against a company that doesn't deliver your goods. You pay Kickstarter, Kickstarter pays the company. Kickstarter is the only one who can enforce their terms against the company, and they're notoriously famous for refusing to do so. There is a long list of Kickstarter campaigns where the founders just took the money and ran. Even ones where the founder appears to have all of the best intentions fall apart. Not saying to never back any croudfunding, but know what you're getting in to. From what I've seen, you get better odds at a casino.

abrugsch 8y ago
I wouldn't put kickstarter odds THAT low... I've backed dozens of campaigns now and so far had exactly one that has totally failed to deliver (the company went flat out bust after getting royally screwed by all of their supply chain - Next Thing Co, the people that made the C.H.I.P and pocketCHIP - in themselves successful KS projects) and one that is in forever development - Star Citizen, but at least they drop regular alpha versions... For everything else I have alt least gotten my product eventually. though I do pick my backs very carefully. I admit there is a lot of obvous vapourware though, but it's easily balanced out by genuine people trying to get a product off the ground, and are usually smaller in scope with much more realistic targets. They don't usually make headlines though ;)
- gmiller123456 8y ago
  I actually got my CHIP, though I ordered it on their website and not Kickstarter. I got screwed on the Peachy Printer. While I technically didn't get screwed on the M3D Printer, it was delayed so long, cheaper and better printers where available by the time I got mine. The closest I came to backing another was the "ABC of Connection" book. It was supposedly a book that was already done, and just had to be printed, so how could that fail? He never delivered the printed material, but eventually delivered a PDF. The PDF showed it was far from complete, and the dates in it showed he hadn't done any real work on it since taking the money. The whole time he was claiming issues with the printer, when it was no where near ready for printing.
  - abrugsch 7y ago
    It wasn't the actual CHIP... I got my CHIP and a pocketCHIP. I had a great e-mail relationship with one of the founders prior to pCHIP release, and the community was excellent. I was actually talking about voder though which was mid development when the financial rug was pulled out and NTC just quietly vanished with all the cries of "where's my CHIP?" in the forum... That's unfortunate about your printer and book. I've backed book (Bitmap books visual commpendium series) and music projects (Chris Huelsbeck Turrican anthology and SIDologie - Sidology took a while to complete but the end result has been stellar) and to date they have all been excellent.

abrugsch 8y ago

I wouldn't put kickstarter odds THAT low... I've backed dozens of campaigns now and so far had exactly one that has totally failed to deliver (the company went flat out bust after getting royally screwed by all of their supply chain - Next Thing Co, the people that made the C.H.I.P and pocketCHIP - in themselves successful KS projects) and one that is in forever development - Star Citizen, but at least they drop regular alpha versions... For everything else I have alt least gotten my product eventually. though I do pick my backs very carefully. I admit there is a lot of obvous vapourware though, but it's easily balanced out by genuine people trying to get a product off the ground, and are usually smaller in scope with much more realistic targets. They don't usually make headlines though ;)

gmiller123456 8y ago
I actually got my CHIP, though I ordered it on their website and not Kickstarter. I got screwed on the Peachy Printer. While I technically didn't get screwed on the M3D Printer, it was delayed so long, cheaper and better printers where available by the time I got mine. The closest I came to backing another was the "ABC of Connection" book. It was supposedly a book that was already done, and just had to be printed, so how could that fail? He never delivered the printed material, but eventually delivered a PDF. The PDF showed it was far from complete, and the dates in it showed he hadn't done any real work on it since taking the money. The whole time he was claiming issues with the printer, when it was no where near ready for printing.
- abrugsch 7y ago
  It wasn't the actual CHIP... I got my CHIP and a pocketCHIP. I had a great e-mail relationship with one of the founders prior to pCHIP release, and the community was excellent. I was actually talking about voder though which was mid development when the financial rug was pulled out and NTC just quietly vanished with all the cries of "where's my CHIP?" in the forum... That's unfortunate about your printer and book. I've backed book (Bitmap books visual commpendium series) and music projects (Chris Huelsbeck Turrican anthology and SIDologie - Sidology took a while to complete but the end result has been stellar) and to date they have all been excellent.