I'm def not in the camp of being PO'ed by that but I understand why some people are. One thing I learned long ago was that there were "dieters" and "ethical veg

I'm def not in the camp of being PO'ed by that but I understand why some people are. One thing I learned long ago was that there were "dieters" and "ethical vegans" and only sometimes did they overlap. The availability of the IB is great for dieters which increases demand and thus eventually the "ethical" population is served.