> Most bosses that retaliate do not view it as retaliation. I don't understand how that's relevant. I mean I grant you that wrongdoers often believe they are d

> Most bosses that retaliate do not view it as retaliation. I don't understand how that's relevant. I mean I grant you that wrongdoers often believe they are doing right. That is true in almost any context. The issue is about whether wrong is being done -- by which I mean, the consensus viewpoint on that question -- not how the wrongdoers feel about their wrongdoing. (I see your other paragraph, but I'm not responding to it because, as I said earlier, I don't wish to discuss my views on it. I'm not afraid to talk about it, but I don't think it would move this particular discussion forward.)