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Naming it like Facebook's Flow https://flow.org/ https://flow.org/ might not be the smartest idea.

by krzkaczor 7y ago

the_duke 7y ago
Reading the article might help. > Flow was conceived almost 9 years ago
- idbehold 7y ago
  Not sure it matters seeing as Facebook's Flow is already more popular. Good luck searching for "How do I [X] in flow" without getting more result for Facebook's Flow. Even if Facebook's Flow never existed, the word "flow" is a challenging term to search for and was a poor name for both Flow9 and Facebook's Flow.
  - HeWhoLurksLate 7y ago
    So, bad SEO might turn the tide against these guys? Can we get a rap about that?
    - kermitismyhero 7y ago
      I think there ought to be a verse for Go too.
      - everdev 7y ago
        I always search for "golang" instead of "go", seems to provide good results. Same with crystal, searching for "crystal lang" seems to help. Slight inconvenience, but not a deal breaker.
- oofoe 7y ago
  Actually, if you want to go back even further... Jef Raskin of Mac fame created a programming language called FLOW in 1971 for teaching computer programming to humanities students. It's a cute little language (you definitely wouldn't want to implement anything significant with it) but he claimed that students who worked with it first did much better when introduced to "traditional" languages (BASIC, FORTRAN, etc.) than those who went in cold. Among other things, it has the first implementation of what we would now call "autocomplete" that I know about. If you're at all intrigued, I made a go at implementing the interface as described here: https://bitbucket.org/oofoe/flow https://bitbucket.org/oofoe/flow References at the bottom of the page. I actually contacted the Stanford University Library to get them to send me copies of his journal pages and papers so I could implement it.
- lenticular 7y ago
  However, it was only open-sourced now, while FB Flow has been open-source for several years. It is actually kind of confusing considering both target JS.
exebook 7y ago
I believe they renamed it to Flow9 at least partly because of the namespace clash with FB's Flow.

Naming it like Facebook's Flow https://flow.org/ https://flow.org/ might not be the smartest idea.

the_duke 7y ago

Reading the article might help. > Flow was conceived almost 9 years ago

idbehold 7y ago
Not sure it matters seeing as Facebook's Flow is already more popular. Good luck searching for "How do I [X] in flow" without getting more result for Facebook's Flow. Even if Facebook's Flow never existed, the word "flow" is a challenging term to search for and was a poor name for both Flow9 and Facebook's Flow.
- HeWhoLurksLate 7y ago
  So, bad SEO might turn the tide against these guys? Can we get a rap about that?
  - kermitismyhero 7y ago
    I think there ought to be a verse for Go too.
    - everdev 7y ago
      I always search for "golang" instead of "go", seems to provide good results. Same with crystal, searching for "crystal lang" seems to help. Slight inconvenience, but not a deal breaker.
oofoe 7y ago
Actually, if you want to go back even further... Jef Raskin of Mac fame created a programming language called FLOW in 1971 for teaching computer programming to humanities students. It's a cute little language (you definitely wouldn't want to implement anything significant with it) but he claimed that students who worked with it first did much better when introduced to "traditional" languages (BASIC, FORTRAN, etc.) than those who went in cold. Among other things, it has the first implementation of what we would now call "autocomplete" that I know about. If you're at all intrigued, I made a go at implementing the interface as described here: https://bitbucket.org/oofoe/flow https://bitbucket.org/oofoe/flow References at the bottom of the page. I actually contacted the Stanford University Library to get them to send me copies of his journal pages and papers so I could implement it.
lenticular 7y ago
However, it was only open-sourced now, while FB Flow has been open-source for several years. It is actually kind of confusing considering both target JS.

exebook 7y ago

I believe they renamed it to Flow9 at least partly because of the namespace clash with FB's Flow.