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> basically there are other things that got ActivityPub before it and could replace it (Pixelfed, Mastodon, Write Freely). Nobody really wants to work on Mediag

by ebg13 8y ago

> basically there are other things that got ActivityPub before it and could replace it (Pixelfed, Mastodon, Write Freely). Nobody really wants to work on Mediagoblin now because the alternatives are pretty much all better. Uh, maybe, except that none of the things you list actually do anything close to the core promise of MediaGoblin. MediaGoblin was going to be the libre Flickr/YouTube replacer. Nothing focusing on federation networks has ever gotten even close to that, so it definitely wasn't beaten by those. At best now there's Piwigo, which by the way, is on GitHub.

jordigh 8y ago
Peertube for YouTube, Pixelfed for Flickr.
- ebg13 8y ago
  Except that pixelfed... 1) Is not even close to Flickr. It's way more like Instagram, which is an entirely different and unrelated thing. 2) Barely has docs. Everything just says "to do". 3) Doesn't even have a website! pixelfed.org just says "coming soon" since last year. It has 400 different language translations though, all telling you the same nothing. How is that in any way superior? Flickr lets you organize your photos and videos together. Peertube and Pixelfed don't do that. You keep suggesting one-off social sharing feed services, but those are entirely orthogonal to what Flickr and the now defunct MediaGoblin provide. Your suggested replacements do entirely different things than what they're alleged to be replacing, and at least one of them doesn't even tell you how to run or use it.
  - jordigh 8y ago
    Alright, everything sucks, there's no hope, never mind.
    - ebg13 8y ago
      MediaGoblin was the hope. It sounds like it might not have lost its developers if it hadn't gotten massively sidetracked by all the social networking federation stuff that was honestly always completely off brand for something that isn't a Twitter clone. You can't do anything about that now, of course, but putting it in a more accessible forge than Savannah might be a good start.
      - jordigh 8y ago
        Well, go ahead: git clone https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/mediagoblin.git https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/mediagoblin.git Put it on github and see how everything starts to get better.
- detaro 8y ago
  About the only thing Pixelfed has in common with Flickr is "it's about images". It's useless for many of MediaGoblin's use cases (which is ok, because it wants to be something else)

by ebg13 8y ago

jordigh 8y ago

Peertube for YouTube, Pixelfed for Flickr.

ebg13 8y ago
Except that pixelfed... 1) Is not even close to Flickr. It's way more like Instagram, which is an entirely different and unrelated thing. 2) Barely has docs. Everything just says "to do". 3) Doesn't even have a website! pixelfed.org just says "coming soon" since last year. It has 400 different language translations though, all telling you the same nothing. How is that in any way superior? Flickr lets you organize your photos and videos together. Peertube and Pixelfed don't do that. You keep suggesting one-off social sharing feed services, but those are entirely orthogonal to what Flickr and the now defunct MediaGoblin provide. Your suggested replacements do entirely different things than what they're alleged to be replacing, and at least one of them doesn't even tell you how to run or use it.
- jordigh 8y ago
  Alright, everything sucks, there's no hope, never mind.
  - ebg13 8y ago
    MediaGoblin was the hope. It sounds like it might not have lost its developers if it hadn't gotten massively sidetracked by all the social networking federation stuff that was honestly always completely off brand for something that isn't a Twitter clone. You can't do anything about that now, of course, but putting it in a more accessible forge than Savannah might be a good start.
    - jordigh 8y ago
      Well, go ahead: git clone https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/mediagoblin.git https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/mediagoblin.git Put it on github and see how everything starts to get better.
detaro 8y ago
About the only thing Pixelfed has in common with Flickr is "it's about images". It's useless for many of MediaGoblin's use cases (which is ok, because it wants to be something else)