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Wow, I'd be surprised if some young congressperson doesn't make their career by publicly eviscerating Boeing soon.
by larrik 7y ago
Wow, I'd be surprised if some young congressperson doesn't make their career by publicly eviscerating Boeing soon.
- mieseratte 7y agoI hope you don't think it's going to be a US congresscritter. "Why do you hate American jobs!"
- gorb314 7y agoBoeing as a whole might not be "evil", the same way VW as a whole is not "evil". So going after the whole of Boeing may not be the right thing. At the same time, some high-up people in VW are paying for the emissions-cheating scandal, which arguably could endanger human beings and the environment. When are people in Boeing going to pay for actually contributing to the deaths caused by this scandal?
- dontbenebby 7y agoYou can turn that logic around real quick since Boeing also makes planes and other equipment for the US military: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Defense,_Space_%26_Security https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Defense,_Space_%26_Secu... You don't hate the troops after all, do you?
- village-idiot 7y ago"Why does the honorable senator from wherever want our troops to fly in unsafe planes? Shouldn't the honorable senator, who claims to support the troops, want our troops to have the most reliable and effective planes available?"
- JudgeWapner 7y agoyep, "think of the troops" is just as emotive (and patronizing) as "think of the children". Unbelievable that people repeatedly fall for it.
- dontbenebby 7y agoI think it's valid to think about both. I just think sometimes people try to reduce risk to zero with no regard for the fact a zero risk society is one without civil liberties.
- dsfyu404ed 7y agoI'm thinking of a particular congresswoman that almost certainly isn't going to do it because she'd lose the vote of pretty much every blue collar worker that aspires to have a stable job somewhere like Boeing. It's not an obvious political win. Edit: Ah, the good ol' "reality makes me unhappy so I'll shoot the messenger" down-votes. I don't know why I even comment in any of the Boeing threads anymore.
- BonesJustice 7y agoIf it were me, I'd rail against the Boeing _leadership_. Frame it as management's greed putting blue collar jobs at risk (by putting sales and corporate reputation at risk).
- dsfyu404ed 7y agoYou can "frame" it either way. If your goal is to get elected it doesn't seem prudent to wade into this kind of issue unless you can be sure that you can successfully frame it the way you want. There's lower hanging political fruit out there.
- everdev 7y agoSo let's not make a fuss about safety, because of jobs?
- dsfyu404ed 7y agoWhere did I say that? All I said is that it wasn't a clear political win because it could easily be framed as a jobs issue.
- everdev 7y ago> she'd lose the vote of pretty much every blue collar worker that aspires to have a stable job somewhere like Boeing It sounds like you're suggesting that we shouldn't hold Boeing too accountable because they wouldn't be able to retain or hire as many blue collar workers. That definitely could be a side effect but I'd be more concerned about creating safe airplanes than safe jobs.
- _eht 7y agoI feel like you are fantastically undervaluing the power of the Boeing lobby groups...